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GOTHA AND NOBILITY CELEBRATIONS 2023 - Claes 2/1/2023, 20:47:50 Foreigners for monarchs - Forrest Yesterday, 12:27:20 Re: Foreigners for monarchs - Jane Yesterday, 15:01:42 Re: Foreigners for monarchs - Johan Yesterday, 21:08:58 Prince Constantin of Liechtenstein dead - Stefanie 6/12/2023, 17:06:34 Living male agnates - Jane 2/12/2023, 18:02:30 Re: Living male agnates - José 4/12/2023, 2:22:54 Re: Living male agnates - Jane 4/12/2023, 18:52:10 Re: Living male agnates - José 4/12/2023, 19:25:32 Grand Duke Vladimir Kirillovich of Russia - Jane 17/11/2023, 2:20:55 Re: Grand Duke Vladimir Kirillovich of Russia - Johan 18/11/2023, 14:17:57 King Filipe VI - Merlin 28/10/2023, 12:12:11 Re: King Filipe VI - Robert 2/11/2023, 21:47:07 Re: King Filipe VI - Merlin 3/11/2023, 13:03:50 Re: King Filipe VI - Johan 3/11/2023, 21:06:29 Re: King Filipe VI - manuel 3/11/2023, 21:22:20 Re: King Filipe VI - Merlin 4/11/2023, 11:17:22 “Official and unofficial” - Charles 4/11/2023, 14:57:53 Re: “Official and unofficial” - manuel 5/11/2023, 19:41:58 Re: “Official and unofficial” - José 6/11/2023, 14:37:45 Re: “Official and unofficial” - Charles 6/11/2023, 15:33:16 Re: “Official and unofficial” - Merlin 6/11/2023, 17:22:52 Contrasting absolutes… - Charles 6/11/2023, 17:36:18 Re: Contrasting absolutes… - Merlin 6/11/2023, 18:47:45 Re: Contrasting absolutes… - manuel 7/11/2023, 21:12:13 Re: Contrasting absolutes… - Merlin 8/11/2023, 10:46:26 Re: Contrasting absolutes… - manuel 8/11/2023, 19:32:15 Re: Contrasting absolutes… - Charles 10/11/2023, 23:07:37 Extremely long and complicated names - Merlin 27/10/2023, 11:20:31 Re: Extremely long and complicated names - manuel 27/10/2023, 20:14:29 Re: Extremely long and complicated names - Merlin 27/10/2023, 21:36:35 106 names - José 27/10/2023, 23:04:04 Re: 106 names - Merlin 27/10/2023, 23:36:55 Re: Extremely long and complicated names - manuel 29/10/2023, 21:04:38 Re: Extremely long and complicated names - Merlin 30/10/2023, 2:21:23 Re: Extremely long and complicated names - José 30/10/2023, 15:13:54 Coronation of the King of Württemberg? - William F 4/10/2023, 22:33:25 Re: Coronation of the King of Württemberg? - Stefan 5/10/2023, 9:56:07 Re: Coronation of the King of Württemberg? - William F 5/10/2023, 11:54:34 Kinfs named Leka - Forrest 13/9/2023, 1:25:46 Re: Kinfs named Leka - Glenn 19/9/2023, 20:14:57 Gustav Albrecht zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg - Merlin 3/9/2023, 16:02:49 Re: Gustav Albrecht zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg - Steven 4/9/2023, 14:55:01 Re: Gustav Albrecht zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg - Merlin 4/9/2023, 20:19:47 Re: Gustav Albrecht zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg - Steven 4/9/2023, 21:48:51 Re: Gustav Albrecht zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg - Glenn 4/9/2023, 23:24:52 Re: Gustav Albrecht zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg - José 6/9/2023, 15:31:52 Re: Gustav Albrecht zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg - Johan 6/9/2023, 15:43:55 Re: Gustav Albrecht zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg - Merlin 6/9/2023, 19:05:45 Use of crowns - Forrest 25/8/2023, 18:51:33 Re: Use of crowns - Johan 25/8/2023, 21:43:52 Use of crowns - Forrest 26/8/2023, 2:27:40 Prince of Ligne/Duke of Arenberg - Merlin 21/8/2023, 12:13:22 Re: Prince of Ligne/Duke of Arenberg - Johan 21/8/2023, 17:55:07 Re: Prince of Ligne/Duke of Arenberg - Merlin 21/8/2023, 18:27:13 Re: Prince of Ligne/Duke of Arenberg - Glenn 22/8/2023, 20:59:02 Re: Prince of Ligne/Duke of Arenberg - Detlef 26/8/2023, 11:55:16 Re: Prince of Ligne/Duke of Arenberg - Merlin 26/8/2023, 19:43:32 Re: Prince of Ligne/Duke of Arenberg - Cynthia 27/8/2023, 12:20:28 Carlos Hugo Klynstra - Merlin 21/8/2023, 0:03:54 Bourbon princes - Forrest 21/8/2023, 0:47:25 Re: Bourbon princes - Merlin 21/8/2023, 1:20:20 Predicates/Styles - Merlin 18/8/2023, 12:23:04 Re: Predicates/Styles - Charles 18/8/2023, 16:39:58 Re: Predicates/Styles - Merlin 18/8/2023, 17:16:36 Re: Predicates/Styles - Forrest 19/8/2023, 11:57:43 Re: Predicates/Styles - Johan 19/8/2023, 17:30:35 former European kingdoms - forrest 7/8/2023, 0:49:46 Re: former European kingdoms - Cynthia 7/8/2023, 22:36:10 royal family of Georgia - Forrest 1/8/2023, 14:03:17 Re: royal family of Georgia - José 2/8/2023, 13:11:04 Re: royal family of Georgia - Johan 2/8/2023, 21:46:47 Royal family of Georgia - Forrest 2/8/2023, 22:27:05 Re: Royal family of Georgia - Robert 4/8/2023, 23:45:34 Greek connections - Steven 5/8/2023, 15:04:56 Re: Greek connections - John W 6/8/2023, 2:21:23 Re: Greek connections - Steven 6/8/2023, 13:24:23 Descent from Ferdinand & Isabella - Jane 30/7/2023, 3:18:44 Descent from Ferdinand, Isabella, & the Stuarts - Forrest 31/7/2023, 13:50:52 “Royals” - Charles 31/7/2023, 16:43:45 (no subject) - Forrest 31/7/2023, 18:58:58 Albanian royals - Cole 6/8/2023, 5:05:21 Re: Albanian royals - John W 6/8/2023, 5:49:18 Royal ancestry - Jane 6/8/2023, 14:50:27 Re: “Royals” - Steven 31/7/2023, 19:01:09 Re: Descent from Ferdinand & Isabella - Charles 31/7/2023, 16:48:06 Hans Adam II is a descendant - Charles 31/7/2023, 17:01:45 Titles of monarchs - Forrest 25/7/2023, 23:54:02 Re: Titles of monarchs - Robert 26/7/2023, 10:23:36 Re: Titles of monarchs - Cynthia 28/7/2023, 23:08:58 Re: Titles of monarchs - Jane 26/7/2023, 13:19:45 Queen Wilhelmina - Forrest 20/7/2023, 23:34:53 Re: Queen Wilhelmina - Johan 21/7/2023, 0:01:50 Neatherland's queens - Forrest 20/7/2023, 23:29:55 Re: Neatherland's queens - Jane 21/7/2023, 13:37:38 Bavarian wedding - Jane 5/7/2023, 5:04:25 Lutheran and Orthodox royals - Jane 1/7/2023, 17:07:15 Re: Lutheran and Orthodox royals - José 4/7/2023, 1:52:39 Re: Lutheran and Orthodox royals - Stig 5/7/2023, 19:30:12 Married in the years of accession - Jane 1/7/2023, 16:56:25 Re: Married in the years of accession - José 4/7/2023, 1:59:57 Re: Married in the years of accession - Stefan 4/7/2023, 8:29:55 Re: Married in the years of accession - Jane 4/7/2023, 15:29:40 Spares who would have succeeded - Jane 20/6/2023, 7:04:55 Re: Spares who would have succeeded - José 20/6/2023, 12:26:10 Emperor Maximilian of Mexico - Jane 20/6/2023, 13:44:29 Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha - Jane 20/6/2023, 14:08:08 Re: Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha - José 23/6/2023, 12:54:13 Prince Luitpold of Bavaria - Jane 23/6/2023, 13:45:38 Second sons - Jane 17/6/2023, 5:52:03 Re: Second sons - Stefan 17/6/2023, 10:43:57 Re: Second sons - Johan 17/6/2023, 13:06:04 Re: Second sons - Stefabn 17/6/2023, 15:07:13 Louis XV - Jane 17/6/2023, 17:56:23 Prince Nikolaus of Nassau-Weilburg - Jane 17/6/2023, 18:03:20 Kings of Saxony - Jane 18/6/2023, 14:35:15 Re: Second sons - José 17/6/2023, 13:53:08 Re: Second sons - José 18/6/2023, 13:04:20 Re: Second sons - José 18/6/2023, 13:04:48 Re: Second sons - Damian 18/6/2023, 20:22:17 The Prince Harry situation - Jane 19/6/2023, 2:37:58 Saxe-Coburg-Gotha - José 19/6/2023, 13:15:54 King George I of the Hellenes - Jane 20/6/2023, 6:45:17 Re: The Prince Harry situation - Johan 19/6/2023, 20:04:42 Re: Second sons - Johan 7/7/2023, 16:36:11 Speculative vs. actual history. - Jane 8/7/2023, 14:40:57 Re: Speculative vs. actual history. - Johan 8/7/2023, 23:17:34 Mortality rates - Jane 9/7/2023, 14:53:12 Wilhelmina's succession - Johan 10/7/2023, 19:14:25 Succession, 1880 - Jane 11/7/2023, 13:46:26 Coronation of Charles III - Forrest 11/5/2023, 16:05:06 Re: Coronation of Charles III - Steven 16/6/2023, 3:20:28 Church accommodations - Jane 11/5/2023, 4:50:53 Re: Church accommodations - Johan 11/5/2023, 21:51:53 Protestant churches in Russia - Jane 12/5/2023, 4:13:23 Re: Protestant churches in Russia - Stefan 12/5/2023, 11:31:09 Re: Protestant churches in Russia - Jane 12/5/2023, 13:35:10 Re: Protestant churches in Russia - Johan 12/5/2023, 15:21:48 Archduchess Maria Christina of Austria-Teschen (1858-1929) - Jane 25/4/2023, 6:23:02 Re: Archduchess Maria Christina of Austria-Teschen (1858-1929) - manuel 25/4/2023, 20:26:35 Re: Archduchess Maria Christina of Austria-Teschen (1858-1929) - José 25/4/2023, 22:20:45 Prince Georg of Bavaria (1880-1943) - Jane 23/4/2023, 14:25:05 Gustav and Carina Sayn Wittgenstein Berleburg expect a child via surrogate next month - Stefanie 19/4/2023, 8:16:01 Princess Anna Monika of Saxony - Jane 6/4/2023, 13:20:32 Re: Princess Anna Monika of Saxony - Steven 7/4/2023, 1:42:49 Princess Beatrix of Hohenlohe-Langenburg - Jane 3/4/2023, 3:39:24 Re: Princess Beatrix of Hohenlohe-Langenburg - Steven 3/4/2023, 13:27:09 Disputed succession to headship - Jane 3/4/2023, 2:13:30 Re: Disputed succession to headship - José 3/4/2023, 17:03:26 Re: Disputed succession to headship - Jane 3/4/2023, 20:26:45 Felipe VI - Jane 3/4/2023, 20:38:31 Greece and Baden - Jane 31/3/2023, 5:08:24 No, Jane - Charles 31/3/2023, 6:11:40 Re: No, Jane - Jane 31/3/2023, 13:40:54 Re: No, Jane - Charles 31/3/2023, 22:49:25 Updates - Jane 1/4/2023, 16:31:11 Brazil, Saxony, Two Scilies or Italy, but Wurttemberg ? - José 31/3/2023, 19:51:50 Re: Brazil, Saxony, Two Scilies or Italy, but Wurttemberg ? - Jane 1/4/2023, 4:19:37 To Jane and Jose - Johan 1/4/2023, 13:31:19 Re: To Jane and Jose - Jane 1/4/2023, 15:17:42 Re: To Johann whoever he maybe... - José 2/4/2023, 20:23:47 Living legitimate agnates - Jane 26/3/2023, 14:30:55 Re: Living legitimate agnates - Johan 26/3/2023, 18:41:57 Re: Living legitimate agnates - Jane 27/3/2023, 5:25:59 Middletons - Forrest 15/3/2023, 12:05:28 Re: Middletons - José 15/3/2023, 13:52:56 Re: Middletons - Damian 15/3/2023, 17:12:07 Re: Middletons - manuel 15/3/2023, 21:16:03 Re: Middletons - José 16/3/2023, 7:52:07 Re: Middletons - Glenn 19/3/2023, 16:22:35 Re: Middletons - Robert 23/3/2023, 16:42:32 Albania royals - Forrest 15/3/2023, 1:11:58 Re: Albania royals - William F 15/3/2023, 1:55:36 Re: Albania royals - José 15/3/2023, 4:53:42 Re: Albania royals - Dag T. Hoelseth 15/3/2023, 16:53:11 Re: Albania royals - Cole 2/4/2023, 3:45:01 The youngest queens - Jane 11/3/2023, 17:26:57 D. Maria II da Glória - José 12/3/2023, 23:28:44 Re: D. Maria II da Glória - Jane 13/3/2023, 2:35:06 Re: D. Maria II da Glória - José 13/3/2023, 4:55:41 Re: The youngest queens - Charles 13/3/2023, 4:39:05 England - José 14/3/2023, 1:13:03 Re: England - Damian 14/3/2023, 3:24:33 Sweden - Robert 23/3/2023, 16:55:00 King Philip of Spain - Forrest 8/3/2023, 19:43:25 Re: King Philip of Spain - José 8/3/2023, 21:18:06 Re: King Philip of Spain - Forrest 9/3/2023, 14:52:17 Re: King Philip of Spain - José 9/3/2023, 18:11:49 Re: King Philip of Spain - Johan 9/3/2023, 21:59:57 Re: King Philip of Spain - José 14/3/2023, 1:00:28 Enthroned parents - Jane 6/3/2023, 3:07:42 Re: Enthroned parents - José 6/3/2023, 13:20:59 Re: Enthroned parents - Jane 6/3/2023, 18:52:23 Re: Enthroned parents - Robert 10/3/2023, 10:47:17 Re: Enthroned parents - Jane 11/3/2023, 4:55:16 Re: Enthroned parents - José 6/3/2023, 13:50:59 Re: Enthroned parents - Jane 6/3/2023, 19:01:10 Re: Enthroned parents - José 7/3/2023, 18:02:35 Prince Nicholas - Jane 7/3/2023, 19:08:13 Crown Prince Alexander - Jane 7/3/2023, 19:20:17 Granddaughters of kings - Jane 25/2/2023, 17:14:03 Re: Granddaughters of kings - José 26/2/2023, 7:51:44 Re: Granddaughters of kings - Stefan 26/2/2023, 9:15:06 Born royal princesses - Jane 26/2/2023, 14:46:39 Queen Marie-Henriette of the Belgians - Jane 26/2/2023, 14:17:43 French princesses - Johan 27/2/2023, 19:25:48 Re: Granddaughters of kings - José 27/2/2023, 23:21:29 Re: Granddaughters of kings - Jane 28/2/2023, 13:30:35 Re: Granddaughters of kings - José 1/3/2023, 17:53:03 Re: Granddaughters of kings - Cynthia 2/3/2023, 11:49:08 Re: Granddaughters of kings - José 2/3/2023, 18:31:29 Marie-José of Belgium & Maria Bona of Savoy - Jane 15/2/2023, 13:26:31 Royal property returns. - Forrest 4/2/2023, 20:29:47 Queen Victoria & hemophilia - Forrest 28/1/2023, 17:27:51 Re: Queen Victoria & hemophilia - Glenn 28/1/2023, 20:51:38 Marco Torlonia, 6th Prince of Civitella-Cesi - Jane 29/1/2023, 14:21:12 Re: Marco Torlonia, 6th Prince of Civitella-Cesi - manuel 29/1/2023, 18:52:07 Sibilla Weillur - Jane 2/2/2023, 2:54:18 Re: Sibilla Weillur - Cynthia 5/2/2023, 1:18:15 Re: Sibilla Weiller - Eric VdV 5/2/2023, 21:26:15 Attn Numismatists--New QE2 Commemorative Coin - Kirsten 27/1/2023, 5:06:49 Re: Attn Philatelists-- First stamp with Charles III Mark - José 27/1/2023, 15:31:04 Re: Attn Numismatists--New QE2 Commemorative Coin - Charles 28/1/2023, 17:01:54 (Oops, previous message is blank) Got mine! - Charles 28/1/2023, 17:04:25 Got mine!! - Kirsten 30/1/2023, 3:30:38 Crown Prince Pavlos - Jane 25/1/2023, 3:53:29 Re: Crown Prince Pavlos - José 25/1/2023, 4:11:44 Former Crown Princes - Charles 25/1/2023, 5:05:29 Re: Former Crown Princes - Cynthia 25/1/2023, 19:27:06 Re: Former Crown Princes - JohnAF 10/2/2023, 18:58:29 Re: Former Crown Princes - Jane 11/2/2023, 14:26:11 Re: Crown Prince Pavlos - William F 25/1/2023, 5:06:04 Danish royal heritage - Forrest 22/1/2023, 22:36:22 Re: Danish royal heritage - José 23/1/2023, 0:17:28 Re: Danish royal heritage - William F 23/1/2023, 1:49:34 Re: Danish royal heritage - José 23/1/2023, 3:17:21 Re: Danish royal heritage - William F 23/1/2023, 3:24:05 Re: Danish royal heritage - William F 23/1/2023, 2:31:09 Worth mentioning… - Charles 23/1/2023, 3:42:56 Re: Worth mentioning… - William F 23/1/2023, 5:03:32 Russia's last Czar - Forrest 19/1/2023, 23:22:41 Re: Russia's last Czar - Steven 20/1/2023, 17:18:00 Re: Russia's last Czar - Forrest 27/2/2023, 11:57:09 The Greek royal record - Jane 18/1/2023, 14:07:05 Re: The Greek royal record - Gary 20/1/2023, 3:54:47 The Spanish monarchy - Jane 20/1/2023, 13:17:18 Re: The Spanish monarchy - William F 20/1/2023, 21:53:57 Re: The Spanish monarchy - Jane 21/1/2023, 3:07:58 Re: The Spanish monarchy - William F 21/1/2023, 20:07:22 4 deposed and 1 abdicated - Jane 20/1/2023, 13:20:45 Re: The Greek royal record - Kirsten 21/1/2023, 14:57:42 Funeral guestlists - Jane 17/1/2023, 3:01:22 Re: Funeral guestlists - Dag T. Hoelseth 17/1/2023, 10:01:49 Re: Funeral guestlists - José 17/1/2023, 11:39:44 Re: Funeral guestlists - Torkel 17/1/2023, 18:52:59 Re: Funeral guestlists - José 17/1/2023, 23:04:26 Re: Funeral guestlists - Dag T. Hoelseth 18/1/2023, 7:52:41 Re: Funeral guestlists - Stig 20/1/2023, 16:43:57 Re: Funeral guestlists - Forrest 18/1/2023, 15:22:25 Re: Funeral guestlists - Glenn 20/1/2023, 20:14:31 Re: Funeral guestlists - José 23/1/2023, 17:47:49 Greek Kings - Richard 16/1/2023, 14:50:42 Obituary of HM King Constantine - Gary 15/1/2023, 18:17:00 Re: Obituary of HM King Constantine - José 15/1/2023, 22:53:26 Unhappy history - Jane 17/1/2023, 1:29:18 Kings in exile - Forrest 13/1/2023, 13:09:14 Re: Kings in exile - José 13/1/2023, 16:59:39 Re: Kings in exile - Forrest 13/1/2023, 23:05:46 Re: Kings in exile - José 14/1/2023, 5:22:10 King Constantine of Greece died - José 11/1/2023, 3:38:37 Re: King Constantine of Greece died - Damian 11/1/2023, 17:12:05 Age of the Queens approaches - Forrest 10/1/2023, 0:58:10 Re: Age of the Queens approaches - William F 10/1/2023, 2:17:13 Denmark and the Netherlands - Jane 10/1/2023, 13:27:07 “Soon”. - Charles 10/1/2023, 2:22:02 House of orange - Forrest 30/12/2022, 20:13:30 (no subject) - Steven 30/12/2022, 22:21:40 Re: House of orange - José 30/12/2022, 22:34:37 Re: House of orange - Johan 31/12/2022, 9:50:32 Female lines - Jane 2/1/2023, 15:57:15 Re: Female lines - Forrest 2/1/2023, 17:59:01 Re: Female lines - Jane 3/1/2023, 13:41:05 Re: Female lines - José 3/1/2023, 15:17:44 Re: Female lines - Johan 3/1/2023, 19:49:47 The Dutch implicity recognize the usual way of things - Charles 5/1/2023, 21:39:55 Re: The Dutch implicity recognize the usual way of things - Johan 6/1/2023, 8:18:28 Re: The Dutch implicity recognize the usual way of things - Charles 6/1/2023, 14:41:09 The House of Austria - Charles 5/1/2023, 21:44:16 Re: The House of Austria - manuel 6/1/2023, 19:39:53 Re: The House of Austria - William F 6/1/2023, 20:55:22 Dr. Otto von Habsburg - Jane 7/1/2023, 5:38:15 Re: Dr. Otto von Habsburg - William F 7/1/2023, 6:01:21 Titles are not illegal in Germany... - Charles 10/1/2023, 19:22:31 Re: Titles are not illegal in Germany... - William F 10/1/2023, 21:45:25 Re: Titles are not illegal in Germany... - William F 10/1/2023, 21:50:09 Habsburg (-Lorraine) vs. Austria today - Charles 10/1/2023, 19:18:35 Native dynasties - Forrest 29/12/2022, 22:46:18 Re: Native dynasties - John W 30/12/2022, 1:21:14 Re: Native dynasties - Johan 31/12/2022, 10:12:36 Re: Native dynasties - José 3/1/2023, 15:37:09 Re: Native dynasties - Johan 3/1/2023, 20:01:00 Re: Native dynasties - José 4/1/2023, 5:52:07 Re: Native dynasties - Johan 4/1/2023, 17:23:10 Re: Native dynasties - William F 5/1/2023, 7:10:20 Re: Native dynasties - José 5/1/2023, 22:48:40 Re: Native dynasties - William F 6/1/2023, 20:31:35 Serbia and Montenegro - Jane 5/1/2023, 13:40:48 the Romanovs? - Forrest 5/1/2023, 18:54:38 Re: the Romanovs? - José 5/1/2023, 22:57:57 UKs 3 Queens Consort in the 1900s - Forrest 27/12/2022, 17:28:09 Re: UKs 3 Queens Consort in the 1900s - José 29/12/2022, 4:29:04 Kaiser Carl of Austria-Hungary - Forrest 22/12/2022, 22:32:15 (no subject) - Steven 23/12/2022, 17:01:35 No Victoria or Albert - Forrest 21/12/2022, 0:26:50 Re: No Victoria or Albert - José 21/12/2022, 14:43:21 Re: No Victoria or Albert - Daniel Willis 21/12/2022, 16:18:27 King George V and Queen Elizabeth II - Jane 21/12/2022, 17:18:53 Victoria - José 22/12/2022, 16:54:04 Prince Albert - Jane 23/12/2022, 16:08:43 Re: Prince Albert - José 25/12/2022, 20:32:52

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