My point Jack is that every country would have made mistakes because it was all something new. I quote Germany because people seem to hold them up as a shining example of what we should all have done, but if you research things you will find the same criticisms of every country, nobody has that hindsight in advance mate. I am particularly interested in Sweden, bars and restaurants still open to this day, possibly standing at over 60% immunity through herd immunity, will it prove to be the right way or will it backfire on them, come back to me in 12-18 months and I may be able to give you the answer