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New At Quitting

Posted by BD on 1/26/2025, 12:28 pm

Ok,

So I was offered a job in a different ISD. I have not resigned from my current ISD. The new ISD has told me that they cannot offer me a salary quote until I am released from my current ISD.

Do they have their wires crossed, or is this the new way of doing things?

Yes, this legit.

I would appreciate any feedback.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by Interesting thought... on 1/28/2025, 10:05 am, in reply to "New At Quitting"

Would any Superintendent or other administrator go along with that?

They would know first and foremost the compensation package, even before whatever assignment or duties would be expected of them.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by MS on 1/28/2025, 7:32 am, in reply to "New At Quitting"

DO NOT RESIGN UNTIL YOU HAVE A CONTRACT FROM THE NEW SCHOOL!!!!

There is no overlap since it would be for different school years. We are contract employees. Therefore, unless the times overlap, we can have multiple signed contracts.

Get a salary quote or walk. Get it in writing.

Now, if you are transferring, then you will need to be released but that doesn't mean they can't give you a quote. They may just want the exact start date so they can run the numbers based on the days left in the contract year.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by OP on 1/28/2025, 5:51 pm, in reply to "Re: New At Quitting"

I agree. I would be moving to a new school.

Thanks for the feedback.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by Kramer on 1/27/2025, 12:08 pm, in reply to "New At Quitting"

Here is my feedback. There is NO WAY I would request a release without KNOWING what the salary would be at the new job. That, my friend, is putting yourself between a rock and a hard place.

Like someone else said, if they are hiding the salary, what else are they hiding.

HUGE RED FLAGS...... but wish you the best.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by OP on 1/28/2025, 5:48 pm, in reply to "Re: New At Quitting"

I agree.

Thanks for the feedback.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by Brkt87 on 1/27/2025, 10:03 am, in reply to "New At Quitting"

If they aren't willing to tell the salary, my question would be what else are they hiding?

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by Respectfully on 1/31/2025, 7:42 am, in reply to "Re: New At Quitting"

Could it be the salary ambiguity has something to do with the number of days worked?

They're going to have to pro-rate the salary as well as the stipend amount, so it would literally change by the day.

The actual annual salary should be public record and posted on the district website, but they can't sign a salary letter until they know the official start date.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by Okay... on 1/31/2025, 2:16 pm, in reply to "Re: New At Quitting"

...and while that's a good point, you get into the question raised by a post below: Why would someone ask to be released without knowing what they will be earning beforehand? You could be taking a hit financially if you would be making less for the remaining school year at the new school than you are at your current school. I guess the OP could ask the new school what date they expect him to be on duty...then it should be easy to figure out what they're making using what is on the website.

But...and I don't know the OP's reasons...if the current school is a horrible situation, it might not be that much of an issue to earn a little less in order to get the heck out of Dodge.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by ovwrkdnundrpd on 1/27/2025, 7:57 am, in reply to "New At Quitting"

I would never quit a current job without knowing the salary of the new job. Do the math. Look at your years of experience on their scale. Ask if there is a stipend. They can tell you that. Usually the salary schedule they posted will have stipends too. ASk if there are extra days as well. Usually you can tell the ballpark from that.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by OP on 1/28/2025, 5:51 pm, in reply to "Re: New At Quitting"

I agree.

Thanks for your feedback.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by Well... on 1/26/2025, 9:50 pm, in reply to "New At Quitting"

...you should be able to go to New ISD's website and find the salary schedule...that way you can get at least a ballpark figure. Some districts really make you hunt for it, but the schedules should be there.

That being said, why would anyone consider asking to be released from their current school if they don't know what they will be making at the new school? I leave old school for new, only to find out that I'm going to make less than I do now? At that point it's too late to turn the job down, your stuck.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by OP on 1/28/2025, 5:47 pm, in reply to "Re: New At Quitting"

I agree.

Thanks for the feedback.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by BDSO on 1/26/2025, 7:06 pm, in reply to "New At Quitting"

They can offer you a salary quote. In fact, salaries (including stipends) are part of the public record. You are running a serious risk of being low-balled by the new ISD and burning a serious bridge with the old (going to to be tough to ask for your job back if the new job is going to be a serious salary cut). Is this for a job you will taking now for the rest of the year or for the next school year?

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by OP on 1/28/2025, 5:45 pm, in reply to "Re: New At Quitting"

This job is for this school year, January, 2025.

Thanks for the feedback.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson on 1/29/2025, 12:02 pm, in reply to "Re: New At Quitting"

I think not many realized that you were talking about a job change during a school year. At least, that's what I think you're indicating. That might explain why District B won't talk salary unless they know that District A (your current employer) is willing to release you mid-year. And that may be different than actually "being released", i.e., you have resigned and released from your contract with District A.

About 20 years ago I want through this very process. District B offered me a position at the beginning of the next school year, then another position at the same district unexpectedly opened up mid year. I was able to make the mid year switch only because District A allowed me to be released from my contract with them mid-year. Maybe this permission to be released is what your District B wants to have in place before they talk salary with you.

As an aside, know that if you make a mid year switch, your salary and paychecks mayl be wonky until the start of your first full year with District B. District A may pay out the remainder of your stipend/extra days while the same will be very small for District B until the new year starts ... this is what happened in my case.

Hope this helps!
Two Sheds

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by OP on 1/29/2025, 3:24 pm, in reply to "Re: New At Quitting"

This helps.

Thanks for the input.

Re: New At Quitting

Posted by Hmm on 1/26/2025, 2:40 pm, in reply to "New At Quitting"

If have you haven't signed a contract for next year, then you a free agent and shouldn't need "releasing". If it's for immediate or future hire, I would be wondering why they offered me a job without pay and benefits information. I could not resign my position and accept a job blindly in that way.

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