The British Royals Message Board: Re: The Andrew Imbroglio

What "American" perspective would that be? Because I'm not, nor is it of any relevance. The Epstein files barely get a mention for now, but that may change in weeks and months to come as further revelations emerge. I doubt the removal of Andrew's titles were coincidental with the Epstein files emerging recently. Together with the books and the fallout from same which I'm sure you'd also prefer to continue ignoring.

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JamesL…I appreciate your American perspective ,… in this country … the UK, the Epstein files barely get a mention in the media …that includes the tabloid media . It’s ( the Epstein files ) is just not news here … this doesn’t mean we don’t know about it I might add!
As for Ms G’s book … it’s not even mentioned now in the news … it’s like it’s all over . Like you , I hope more people are called to account and to explain their actions in relation to the horrific events, rather than one English ex prince

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Your comments only lead me to wonder why you're suddenly aware that the public has a voice? In fact has, for better or worse, for the past 25-30 years aka the internet of things. You might be more substantially concerned with AMB's fate going forward if you considered a) further fallout from not only V. Giuffre's book - i.e., more young women coming forward, further fallout from other relevant books i.e., "Entitled: the Rise and Fall of the House of York", and then b) growing calls in recent day in the U.S. from congressional ccommittees and individual congressmen demanding AMB testify further in person regarding the continued details coming out from the Epstein files, and c) last but not least, the Epstein files themselves which can possibly provide more damning details and names surrounding AMB and his yacht days. Those are the actual ongoing or potential points of revelation regarding not only AMB but also those closest to him, i.e., the ex & daughters and their possible complicity in his antics.

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Thousands are rejoicing ! Please just go to the “ comments “ section in any UK tabloid … or worse see the comments on X, or the messages that my friends have sent me ! I have never witnessed a with hunt like this ( one again I am NOT speaking in his defence ). I guess when it’s settled down everyone can start on the Sussexes again.

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"Nobody is rejoicing." I'm sorry, John, but they are, including in posts on this site. I'm not making any judgement about that fact but, clearly, people are rejoicing.

I have not suggested that the Duke of York's misfortunes and those of his wife are not of their own making. Those factors are simply not relevant to the points that I wished to make. But I don't think that retreating into cliches such as "Enough is enough" is particularly illuminating. One of the points that I was trying to make and, clearly, I failed, was that royal status necessarily is linked to hereditary rights, not just to service and, in the king's case, certainly not to moral virtue. And I say that as someone who admires the King, the Queen and the Princess Royal.

I also agree that monarchies need to continue to update, but I'm not sure that that should include discarding the very principle on which monarchy (with the exception of the Papacy and Malaysia, should people believe that they are monarchies - I don't) actually rests, like discarding the hereditary principle.