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Posted by Alisa
on 8/11/2020, 5:52:23, in reply to "Re: Ranking
For monarchies,royals have titles so it is quite easy. I have never wrapped my head around why some countries have both a prime ministerand
president. So I can imagine how there could be confusion there. Who comes first in order of precedence?
Of course here in the US with the historic election we now have for the first time new titles to be used. For the first time in history a Madame Vice-President
who will be accompanied by her husband the Second Gentleman
I would assume that the First Lady of the Netherlands would be, of course, the Queen.
In a Republic, the First Lady is the President's wife, full stop. The current Portuguese President is divorced so we don't have a FL. Nobody thinks of calling the PM's wife the FL.
It would be odd, in the NL, if HM and the PM's wife would attend the same event, calling the latter the First Lady of the country
Funny how countries have their own versions. In the Netherlands the English term First Lady is used but not to describe the Queen but the wife of the PM (if he is married that is, our current PM is a bachelor). So in the Netherlands we see a practice where the English term is used for the wife of someone holding a political office while the Dutch version is used for the Queen.
It is however not laid dawn as a formal rule to do so resulting in many variations.
First lady is used quite widely, I believe. We use the term also in Norway (f°rstedame), not just about the First Lady of the US, but about any country's first lady. The first lady is always used in relation to the wife (or in some instances daughter) of the highest ranking male ie President/King, never about a Prime Minister.
As for rank (precedence) in Finland - I would imagine the wife of the president is ranked higher than the Prime Minister, but I have not seen this written anywhere.
And the credibility of lexico.com?
"Lexico is a website that provides a collection of dictionaries of English and Spanish produced by Oxford University Press (OUP), the publishing house of the University of Oxford" (Source: Wikipedia)