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So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by WSimpson NC <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=WSimpson+NC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/3/2019, 1:14 pm

A storm came through last Friday and wiped out my new tent on my deck .

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It also wiped out this year's crop of Citrumelos . These are only three small selected areas under the tree . There are surly several hundreds on the ground . Imagine what that tree would've looked like if most of those Citrumelos matured into the fall :
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I zoomed and counted about 40 or more fruit of various sizes on top of this manhole cover .
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Thanks for looking .
Will

Winston-Salem
Ten year lows: 12F 15F 19F 20F 5F 4F 15F 7F 8F (14F 2019)
10 Year Average Winter Lowest Low 11.9F ; 30 Year 11.7F
Profession:Trachy Defiberer and Palm Spear Puller (free estimates)

Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by Scot from SC <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Scot+from+SC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/4/2019, 7:45 am, in reply to "So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :"

I am sorry to hear that. A bad wind storm is as bad as a late freeze when it comes to fruit trees. I think my Citrumelo needs more shade. I have it out in the open, and even though I keep it watered, the leaves often are a yellowish green. Maybe I need to fertilize it more. Nevertheless, I am sorry your crop got destroyed.

Scot from South Carolina
Zone 8a
Greenwood, S.C.
Elevation 642 feet above sea level
Straight from The Palmetto State!

Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by Jim Wilmington DE 7a <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Jim+Wilmington+DE+7a' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/4/2019, 8:39 am, in reply to "Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :"

The yellow-green could be several factors. An iron deficiency, or, more likely, a magnesium or potassium deficiency. Especially as you are in the Southeast, which is known for a lack of these minerals.

Citrus can be funny though. Temperamental.

Jim, Wilmington, DE, 7a
Last 30 Years Avg. Winter Low: 7.50F
Last 20 Years Avg. Winter Low: 8.35F
Last 10 Years Avg. Winter Low: 8.40F
Favorite Palms: Species: Phoenix Canariensis / Genus: Sabal

Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by Jim Wilmington DE 7a <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Jim+Wilmington+DE+7a' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/4/2019, 8:44 am, in reply to "So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :"

Interesting thing, Will, but my Ponciris trees (I have 2) had their regular bloom flush, but then proceeded to produce very few fruit. I'm talking a VERY low number. I can't even count 5 in my older of the two trees, and there are years where I've gotten 40 (at least) from it.

There was no weather incident after the bloom. And there was no fruit drop. So, I really don't know what's going on. I sometimes think that fruit trees are on their own secret cycle that has little to do with weather. Sometimes, they'll bear a lot of fruit and sometimes they won't.

I've seen this in my fig tree as well some years.

Jim, Wilmington, DE, 7a
Last 30 Years Avg. Winter Low: 7.50F
Last 20 Years Avg. Winter Low: 8.35F
Last 10 Years Avg. Winter Low: 8.40F
Favorite Palms: Species: Phoenix Canariensis / Genus: Sabal

Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by WSimpson NC <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=WSimpson+NC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/4/2019, 9:56 am, in reply to "Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :"

I see what you're saying but I had a severe storm come through with high winds and torrential rain that I believe just blew and shook them off the tree . The rain beat on them a little too . I was driving through the storm and there were lakes around all the storm drains , and my wipers were going full blast and it was still hard to see of the truck .
They were doing well with little droppage and then that storm came through and bam . I went from seeing fruit all over the tree one day to seeing them all on the ground after that storm .
It was a great flowering year too . The best ever for that tree .
It was also a frost free period during flowering with bees and other insects going to town on the blooms .
I'll learn more about their idiosyncrasies over time but this seemed like the year it should've been loaded .
I do appreciate your input and will keep that in the back of my mind in future years .
Thanks ,
Will

Winston-Salem
Ten year lows: 12F 15F 19F 20F 5F 4F 15F 7F 8F (14F 2019)
10 Year Average Winter Lowest Low 11.9F ; 30 Year 11.7F
Profession:Trachy Defiberer and Palm Spear Puller (free estimates)

Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by WSimpson NC <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=WSimpson+NC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/4/2019, 9:58 am, in reply to "Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :"

Thanks Scot .
My tree is out in the lawn so it gets fertilizer sometimes twice a year . It stays really green .
That severe storm sucked . It was raining so hard I could hardly see when I was driving , and all the storm drains had a lake around them that you had to slog through .
Thanks ,
Will

Winston-Salem
Ten year lows: 12F 15F 19F 20F 5F 4F 15F 7F 8F (14F 2019)
10 Year Average Winter Lowest Low 11.9F ; 30 Year 11.7F
Profession:Trachy Defiberer and Palm Spear Puller (free estimates)

Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by Scot from SC <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Scot+from+SC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/8/2019, 11:01 am, in reply to "Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :"

I need to fertilize mine more. We got some rain yesterday finally. It has been dry and hot here for weeks, so I was grateful.

Scot from South Carolina
Zone 8a
Greenwood, S.C.
Elevation 642 feet above sea level
Straight from The Palmetto State!

Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by WSimpson NC <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=WSimpson+NC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/8/2019, 7:21 pm, in reply to "Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :"

Just fertilized the Thailand Giant EE's . The heavy rain is doing all the watering .
Will

Winston-Salem
Ten year lows: 12F 15F 19F 20F 5F 4F 15F 7F 8F (14F 2019)
10 Year Average Winter Lowest Low 11.9F ; 30 Year 11.7F
Profession:Trachy Defiberer and Palm Spear Puller (free estimates)

Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by WSimpson NC <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=WSimpson+NC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/9/2019, 12:50 pm, in reply to "Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :"

Jim , I checked the tree and I do have quite a few Citrumelos still on the tree .
I wonder if hot dry conditions were part of the reason so many fruit fell off . It makes me think about watering it next time it's hot and dry and young fruit are maturing . Maybe that storm was just a little extra prodding for fruit that were going to fall at some point anyway .
Possibly watering the tree during hot and dry conditions would've saved a lot of fruit .
It had so many flowers on it and young fruit I hate that so many ended up on the ground .
I'll learn more about how it fruits over time . I wish my wet period now had happened in early May instead of now .
Will

Winston-Salem
Ten year lows: 12F 15F 19F 20F 5F 4F 15F 7F 8F (14F 2019)
10 Year Average Winter Lowest Low 11.9F ; 30 Year 11.7F
Profession:Trachy Defiberer and Palm Spear Puller (free estimates)

Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by Tommy Nashville-Miami <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Tommy+Nashville-Miami' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/9/2019, 3:42 pm, in reply to "Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :"

Will,

There was a big dividing line this year between the Southeast and Mid-Atlantic during May for heat. Obviously, there usually is but almost half of May was over 90F for us. The heat probably did have an effect.

"Oh, Dixie Land, I hope you understand
When I miss my Tennessee Home
And I've been away way too long
I can't see this world unless I go
Outside my Southern Comfort Zone"- Brad Paisley

Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by WSimpson NC <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=WSimpson+NC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/10/2019, 2:50 pm, in reply to "Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :"

We were dry here too during and before that hot period . The fruit might be sensitive to the tree being dry and fall off as needed for the survival and health of the tree .
Thanks ,
Will

Winston-Salem
Ten year lows: 12F 15F 19F 20F 5F 4F 15F 7F 8F (14F 2019)
10 Year Average Winter Lowest Low 11.9F ; 30 Year 11.7F
Profession:Trachy Defiberer and Palm Spear Puller (free estimates)

Re: So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :

Posted by Dave in NoVA z7a <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Dave+in+NoVA+z7a' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 6/27/2019, 10:21 am, in reply to "So much for this year's crop of Citrumelos :"

Bummer. I'll bet there are still some left on the tree though.

Fairfax, VA,Zone 7A

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