Posted by Johan
on 3/2/2022, 7:56:29, in reply to "Re: Freak
I think using terms as effeminate and flamboyant to describe certain behaviour or sense of dress is alright. I was just triggered by your line about admitting his true sexuality and or gender.
Just because Jaime may not be the most masculine man, it does not mean he isn't straight or a man.
Caitlin Jenner is a good example for it. She was in her previous role a very masculine man. An olympian athlete, married three times with a string of children. Not the most likely candidate to be a transgender in most people's opinion yet she transitioned. Jaime could very well be an example for the opposite. Though his behaviour might fit in with what people expect of someone who might be gay or trans he could very well identify himself as a straight male. To the best of my knowledge he seems to do so. He is no longer a public figure so there would not be a public announcement if things were different.
Maybe you are just judging on stereotypes. Just because someone is flamboyant so to speak. He could still be a straight man who enjoys a maybe less macho side of his personality.
We both are judging based on stereotypes. I called him effeminate and you called him flamboyant .
[Quote]Considering he was married to a woman and is rumoured to have had affairs with both men and women he might be bisexual but is purely based on rumours.
Gender dysphoria has a large range and in most cases people prefer a life in their biological sex rather than identifying with the other gender or becoming non-binary.
I don't claim to know Jaime's sexuality or gender preference. He can continue in this manner or perhaps choose to live as he truly identifies if he desires. After all, we live in a more "woke" era and time. One only has to look at Caitlin Jenner as an example.
The word "freak" seems a bit harsh and well is quite socially unacceptable.
Jaime appeared to be effeminate with his lush neck scarves and hand fans. It's 2022 after all and the children are grown, perhaps we'll see an admission of his true sexuality or gender identification.
That's my recollection too, from what Spanish friends told me throughout the 2000s.
Though there was talk in Barcelona about Cristina's huge home and how it was being paid for.
Also the assumption that Elena's marriage was over years before the separation was announced. Jaime and his hand fans. Probably less odd in 2022 than 2000
Well, at that time and until the Noos scandal, Iñaki was the perfect husband and son-in-law, while Jaime was just a freak.
I understand that the marriage was welcomed in Spain, and that it seemed very romantic to see the daughter of the King marry a well-known athlete. I'm just thinking of my own reaction at the time. I didn't feel that way about Infanta Elena's marriage, and that didn't work out either, so my reactions are by no means infallible!
A,mismatch from the beginning? Not at all. Rewritting history has become a common practice , I am afraid. Not a comment to you, but now everybody seems to have foreseen it from the beginning.
When the couple married, most of the public and political opinion was practically unanimous applauding this match. The King’s daughter marrying an olympian, a sportsman, tall, blonde and with blue eyes. Born in the Basque Country and living in Barcelona. Impossible to find a bettet match, personally and politically. The couple settled in Barcelona and were like the representatives of the Royal House in Catalonia. The President of Catalonia even referred to her as “la nostra Infanta”, our Infanta.
Of course, everything changed after the Noos scandal and now with the new relationship.
The topic here is a sad one, but I did enjoy learning the "loaded backpack" expression. I suppose our equivalent is "this couple has a lot of baggage." And this couple does. This seemed like a mismatch in some ways from the beginning. I suppose, however, it is difficult for anyone to marry into a Royal Family -- it was even tough for a born-royal like the late Duke of Edinburgh to find his path. For Inaki and Cristina, the outcome was disaster.
The use of the word is just a mere euphemism.
If there is something behind the photos to force the outcome? Who knows? This couple carries indeed a very loaded backpack, as we say in Spain. Everything can be possible. R.
Interrupt suggests something temporary not permanent.
But indeed not before time.
I wonder was the magazine exposé arranged to force Cristina's hand?
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