Re: the Royal Family
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I'm not going to argue this with you any more. Bottom line there is a recognized group who make up "The Royal Family" which is currently limited to the Queen, her husband, her children & their spouses, the children of her sons (Harry & Meghan's inclusion is a bit up in the air at the moment), the children of the Duke of Cambridge, the Dukes/Duchesses of Gloucester and Kent, and Kent's siblings and living spouse. Whether YOU choose to recognize that or not is completely up to you, but this is who the Palace, the "Firm", or whatever you want to call the organizational structure that surrounds the monarchy, recognizes, which is all that really matters.
Family gatherings include many people beyond this list, including some not even related. And yes, sometimes it includes the Bowes-Lyon cousins, although must less so since the death of the Queen Mother, and many of those cousins whom the Queen was closest to have themselves died in past few years.
The second photo represents, I suspect, the people who Charles intends to deploy as 'working Royals'. That is his right. What he cannot do is change the biological realities of family.
And, Steven, I assume that the photographs (plural) that were regularly published in the 1970s of the Queen with all of the descendants of George V, in Royal surrounds, were made at her command and, in turn command, our attention when considering who SHE considers to be included in the Royal Family.
So far, without evidence, Daniel has proposed that the Royal Family comprised those people on the Civil List, and then you and he propose those people with an HRH, again, without any basis.
I am not aware of any definitive source which defines the Royal Family, but the Queen's annual practice of inviting all of the descendants of the sons of George V to a family lunch is a bit hard walk past. You'll note, in this regard, that she has never included her Bowes-Lyons relatives, even those to whom she was extremely close, in the lunch. She seems concerned with a Royal Family rather than a more nebulous concept of the Queen's family, to which Daniel alluded.
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