I have not used the term "followers", nor has any other Jacobite in this forum. You have created a straw-man.
Franz makes no claim to be King of Bavaria. He knows that he is the great-grandson and male-line heir of King Ludwig III of Bavaria, and that he is the senior co-heir general of King Charles I of England, Scotland, France, and Ireland. His adherents (whether Bavarian, English, Scottish, or Irish) know likewise.
There were a number of times in English history before 1689 when a cadet prince took (usurped?) the throne. But every single time this was corrected in a subsequent generation.
It is only in 1689 and then in 1714, that the throne was taken by a junior line without ever being restored to the senior line (at least, thus far).
In 1648 Charles II left England in much the same way that his brother James II left England in 1688. In neither case, did the brother intend to "abandon his throne". In the case of James II, within three months he was in Ireland fighting for his Irish crown. But the hateful Williamites and their current-day defenders think of Ireland as some sort of sub-human nation, not worthy of defending. It is just ridiculous to state that James II "abandoned his thrones".
Presumably one is not allowed to use such terms as Henry Plantagenet, Henry Tudor, James Stuart, William of Orange, or George of Hanover. How ridiculous to make a fuss over the use of the term "Elizabeth Windsor".
The Williamites and Hanoverians - and their followers! - are religious bigots. For hundreds of years the kings of England and the kings of Scotland were Catholics.
Noel S. McFerran
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