I'm sorry to that I'm an idiot. I should have known better. I like seethru's suggestion also. I'm trying to look for some type of cage that's cheap. They seem alright. Monday they were sort of in shock with the spray bath. Also I preen Dorian all the time but I never grab him. On Sunday I did grab him and felt his neck. I found something there that was good and black. I rubbed it out. I'm not really sure what it was. It's not there now. It could have been old poop (Max sometimes sits above him). I don't think it was glue because of the location. It was deep under his other feathers. Maybe some sort of stuck pin feather. Either way it's not there any more. I want to take both of them to the vet. I can't believe there's no avian vets in this area.

I'm leaving them alone for now. I'm buying them some sort of play stand to give them more exercise.

I worry about them all the time.