First of all scb, thanks for getting me back on, seems like a nightmare. To be fair TRE and Suedehead did say that one of the reasons they wanted change was due to the increasing unreliability and unresponsiveness of boardhost. I agree with scb though, I've been in and out twice now and it will eventually wear down all members if it is constantly happening. I do use the other board but much prefer this format and it would be a real shame and end of an era if it becomes unmanageable.