Quite ironic you accuse DUH of twisting things, when this is at least the third or fourth time in this thread alone when you've done that yourself.

DUH said "there's more to being a goalkeeper than shot-stopping"; he didn't say shot-stopping wasn't a goalkeeper's main job.

Your views for both Ben and Wootton are always at such a basic level and have no nuance at all and when someone else brings nuance to the argument you immediately drag it back down to that basic level. "GOALKEEPER STOP BALL; STRIKER KICK IN GOAL!" which nobody is disagreeing with but you just can't develop that point any further as if they don't do those things enough, you shit on everything about them and give them no credit for their part in anything else.

As I said earlier, in one of the many replies you've conveniently not replied to because you know I'm right, nobody in the team right now has scored more goals or contributed more assists than Kyle Wootton has.

If you'd just once in a while say "You know what, they've proved me wrong", perhaps you wouldn't appear as clueless.