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Posted by Peter Wilkinson User icon on July 19, 2025, 3:22 pm

Again new to me from Youtube.

I can't say goodbye anymore - Jim Reeves
Teardrops can't be far away Jim Reeves

What do you think to this?

Re: Youtube

Posted by Robert Wagner User icon on July 20, 2025, 11:57 am, in reply to "Youtube"

I am up in age and technically challenged. I'm still on a flip phone. My grandson is my go to guy for assistance.

However, I am an ardent Jim reeves fan and have been so since I was in Junior High School in the 1960's.

Some time ago I posted a message about producing some AI generated songs of classics we wished Jim had recorded.

I got negative responses for some reason.

I just listened to these two songs on YouTube.

They are FANTASTIC.

I assume they were AI generated, and would like to know how to obtain them for my Jim Reeves Collection.

I need more info, and hope to see some modern classic songs from lesser artists created, that only Jim's voice would do justice.

Please elaborate on how these songs were created, if that is what actually occurred, and how to obtain them and hopefully others.

Thanks

Re: Youtube

Posted by Peter Wilkinson User icon on July 20, 2025, 1:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

Hi Robert,
I have no idea, I stumbled on them yesterday.
I have tried to understand how they work, but can't. The quality of the voice is outstanding and as a lifelong fan, I cannot tell the difference. If this came on the radio, I would not doubt it was real!

Re: Youtube

Posted by Mike Slater User icon on July 20, 2025, 1:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

Peter and Robert, these two songs WERE done with AI.it says so in the comments under the video. They are not really Jim singing, but they are perfect and very interesting to hear. Still have mixed feelings about this technology though. I'm a little technically challenged as far as how to obtain copies of these songs though too. However, as long as these songs are being created, I always wished that Jim had recorded the song "Dear Heart" and would really like to hear what it would have sounded like had he recorded it...

Re: Youtube

Posted by Robert Wagner User icon on July 20, 2025, 2:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

I saw the AI mention in the posting.

That being said, I am totally at a loss as how or where to continue.

I once had a idea of going to a box on the street selecting about 12 songs I liked and "poof" a CD would be made. Now it is the norm for burning CD's.

Now, I would like to go to a machine select a number of classic songs and "poof" Jim Reeves would be singing them.

Let's keep a good thought.

This needs following up, but I have no idea how or where.

Re: Youtube

Posted by Martin Rolls User icon on July 21, 2025, 7:38 am, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

I am just astonished!

Like many of you I have been a Jim Reeves fan here in the UK since the early 60's. These AI recordings leave me very torn.

They are immensely pleasurable to listen to, and I also can't tell the difference from the real thing. So what now? Should I feel disloyal to Jim? If I add them to my collection am I cheating a little?

Of course we're talking gain here. Is someone cheating Jim's legacy when they try to make money out of them?

I just don't know what to think.

As an aside, The sentiment of 'Teardrops Can't Be Far Away' to me is in the vein of Jim's big Hit ' A Nickel Piece of Candy'.

I'm comparing already.

Martin

Re: Youtube

Posted by Roy Zinck User icon on July 21, 2025, 7:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

Well...This is my two cents worth of how I understand AI and the fall out this may or will create.

I don't think AI will ever replace real music as we have known it. At least not for the folks our age. If you want a mediocre approximation of your favorite singer, it's got you covered. If it's something that will generally move you- then that can only come from a Human Being !! Full Stop..

I just watched the "Recreation" video of Distant Drums by Jim and I must say a novelty at best. If we could all be around in 100 years, technology advancement may be better, but for me, will never replace the real thing. Good effort but creeped me out for sure. Someone mentioned "Scary"..that works too.

I watched a presentation of a hologram of Walt Disney last week on some news network. . I believe it will be a showcase presentation at Disneyland in the near future. Interesting image but again creeped me out and felt this is just not right. a bit 'disturbing' fits in there too.

I would really like to hear from Larry on this latest fad, as it were. If you see this Larry, I just can't wait for your thoughts, which I know will be most interesting. Thank you

Re: Youtube

Posted by Peter Wilkinson User icon on July 22, 2025, 2:53 am, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

Roy, I agree with you about the video, I think another one is now on also. These two new AI'songs' are about the 'Sound' which is where we all started many years ago. These two are based on the later 'Nashville Sound' which is the best for me and I would welcome more of this from AI of this quality.

Re: Youtube

Posted by Robert Wagner User icon on July 22, 2025, 5:10 am, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

Peter is right. It is all about the sound.

I don't agree that this is disrespectful to Jim's legacy in any way.

In fact, I think it enhances his legacy with the opportunity for us, and future fans, to hear songs we wished Jim had sung.

I don't know about how any monetary gain is achieved, buy Larry wrote a book, (which I am mentioned in), and overdubs, and his monetary gain was not disrespectful to Jim in any way.

As far as songs, I would love to hear a number of classic Hymns created, that Jim's voice would do justice to.

I hope there are more than just us few posting hear that can witness this and effect progress.

Re: Youtube

Posted by Martin Rolls User icon on July 23, 2025, 5:26 am, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

Thank you for this Robert.

For me there is a vast difference between overdubs, and an AI generated voice singing a song the real person never did.

I am very grateful for the work that Larry has done on JR overdubs etc., and good luck to him.

I am still torn about AI stuff however. I have mostly enjoyed what I have heard so far, but collecting it should I feel a little guilty?

Just can't make my mind up.

Martin

Re: Youtube

Posted by Robert Wagner User icon on July 23, 2025, 8:29 am, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

I don't believe guilt attaches to any of this.

We have to disagree about the vast difference between overdubs and AI generated songs.

Both are either created or altered, and not original Jim Reeves releases. Monetary gain is not a factor for me.

These AI generated songs are a bridge from Jim Reeves passing until the coming resurrection guaranteed scripturally.

Until then, I look forward to whatever can be accomplished by AI in enhancing Jim Reeves legacy.

Until we meet again.

Re: Youtube

Posted by Roy Zinck User icon on July 23, 2025, 7:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

yeah, I'm sitting on the fence on this one too. So far I see it as a novelty and amusing. The problem I have is the notion that a computer chip can sound as well as Jim's voice ---that will never fit for me. I wonder what Jim would say if he were here. I'm sure it would be "You got to be kidding me, what has my life meant". But having said that, in some ways I do understand the other side of this. Therefore the jury is still out on this one.

last night I found two more of these regeneration videos. First one is Jim and Skeeter Davis singing "He'll Have To Go" thru the phone with Skeeter rendering a version of the 'answer' song. The inserted phone with arm on skeeter's part obviously inserted and looked bad. The second one was Jim singing "I'm A Hit Again". Dressed in a red jacket, the image was quite good. At the end Jim gives a big smile with two thumbs up, and then does a bow. well I don't know what to think. You guys just have to see these, and I would love to hear your review opinions...good or bad.

The one good thing that AI has done, it has reignited chatter on the Forum. Couldn't be better , just like the old Forum used to be.

Re: Youtube

Posted by Peter Wilkinson User icon on July 24, 2025, 6:30 am, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

The AI regen videos are coming on often now.Seems to have sparked some interest! I would like to see more new Audio good quality AI of new songs, perhaps a joint venture with Larry's enterprises that could gain a wider audience. I think this could create a new fan base and bring interest to Jims original music/records which is largely now under the radar.

AI technology...

Posted by Mike Slater User icon on July 25, 2025, 4:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Youtube"

I also have mixed feelings about these AI images. I do get a kick out of hearing this AI created voice that sounds just like Jim, doing songs we never heard him do. But this is also a dark side to this technology and social media in general, which I stay away from. There is a story about actress Sandra Bullock and her sister saying that someone on Facebook is leaving posts claiming they are her. Someone else was scammed by an AI generated voice claiming to be Brad Pitt. You can look this up on line. As for the AI generated images of Jim, the last one was the best so far, in my opinion. Still not sure how I feel about these either...

Re: AI technology...

Posted by Robert Wagner User icon on July 26, 2025, 6:34 am, in reply to "AI technology..."

There is a dark side to all technology.

Who would ever have believed that our basic land line telephones would be used against us? Harassing, spam, and criminal theft attempt calls.

How about the allowing of vulgarity, nudity, the encouragement of criminality, deviant behavior, on Television?

What about disgraceful politicians spewing vulgarity for "effect".

The bad effect smartphones are having on all of us especially our children, is not being adequately addressed.

It appears that a smartphone is surgically attached to the hands of people around the world.

The negative aspects of AI generated Jim Reeves songs and videos are low on the Totem Pole of dark or dangerous technology I respectfully submit.

Re: AI technology...

Posted by Mike Slater User icon on July 26, 2025, 3:10 pm, in reply to "Re: AI technology..."

Oh yes, Robert, you are absolutely right. This is why I stay away from social media as much as I can. But anyone who follows this rule is still not immune, of course. You can get scammed on the internet no matter what you are doing.The Jim Reeves images and songs are definately interesting to see and hear and completely harmless,but this AI technology can and has already been used in a negative way to scam people...

Re: AI technology...

Posted by Robert Wagner User icon on July 26, 2025, 7:03 pm, in reply to "Re: AI technology..."

Spot On!

Re: AI technology...

Posted by In a Moment User icon on July 27, 2025, 12:24 pm, in reply to "Re: AI technology..."

New AI from Youtube

'In a Moment'

Johny Shand Tribute

Re: AI technology...

Posted by Robert Wagner User icon on July 28, 2025, 8:27 am, in reply to "Re: AI technology..."

These AI generated songs are unbelievable.

Just listened to "In a Moment". Fantastic.

The vocalization was perfect Jim Reeves. The recitation seems just a little off but not bad.

Would like to hear some music "Standards" done by Jim.

Jim doing "Amazing Grace" would be good.

Re: AI technology...

Posted by Mike Slater User icon on July 28, 2025, 1:09 pm, in reply to "Re: AI technology..."

Still waiting for "Dear Heart". Always thought this one was perfect for Jim and wished he had recorded it. Another good one that comes to mind is Pat Boone's "April Love". Jim did a great job with Pat's "Love Letters In The Sand" on his radio show. Would love to him doing this one!...

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Posted by Peter Wilkinson User icon on July 28, 2025, 3:37 pm, in reply to "Re: AI technology..."

The three 'new' songs all seem to be written and arranged by Johnny and I think many if not all the others are too.This takes me back all those years when first hearing Jim sing, when many of those songs were also only just written and not known to me. For me this adds another dimension, something you don't get with a familiar tune or song.

Re: AI technology...

Posted by Robert Wagner User icon on July 28, 2025, 4:28 pm, in reply to "Re: AI technology..."

I'll show my ignorance here, but who is Johnny Shand, and where do these songs and arrangements come from?

Is he creating these "New" songs because of copyright, or other legal impediments?

Does anyone know? The songs are very good, in my view, but I would still like to hear some standards, like some others posting here.

The AI voice we can appreciate and somewhat understand, but composition and arrangement are still a mystery.

Re: AI technology...

Posted by Mike Slater User icon on July 29, 2025, 9:16 am, in reply to "Re: AI technology..."

Robert, I was thinking the same thing. Where are these songs coming from? And who is this Johnnguy? I do like the songs though and the voice sounds like Jim exactly. Has anyone heard the many AI songs created on Elvis? They are terrible! There was one created many moths ago called "Poor Man's Gold" that is perfect, but everything after that just sounds like bad Elvis impersonators. How come the ones on Jim sound absolutely perfect and they can't get the Elvis songs as good? "Poor Man's Gold" was written by Mac Davis and is a song Elvis started recording, but never completed...

Re: AI technology...

Posted by Robert Wagner User icon on July 29, 2025, 4:09 pm, in reply to "Re: AI technology..."

I haven't listened to the songs of others.

Mac Davis, great songwriter. Did some real tear jerkers.

This needs following up by someone knowledgeable in Tech.

Would buy AI classics done in Jim's voice.

I think it is coming like making CD's with songs we pick out developed in the past.

Mike and I are on the same page.

Re: AI technology...

Posted by Mike slater User icon on July 30, 2025, 4:00 pm, in reply to "Re: AI technology..."

I'm glad we're on the same page, Robert. The Elvis AI song "Poor Man's Gold" is a beautiful Mac Davis song, but unfortunately, it's the only AI song done on Elvis that is really good. Mac recorded a nice version of the song himself. He also wrote Elvis' hits "In the Ghetto" and "A Little Less Conversation.". I know there are AI songs on Parsy Cline and other artists, but I haven't listened to those yet...

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