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Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by TXBD on 12/20/2024, 11:36 am

Today, I was informed that I would be receiving a student transfer who is currently an Area Band candidate at their current school. What are the TMEA rules regarding transfer students? Do TMEA's criteria align with those of the UIL for student participation?

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by older than dirt on 12/27/2024, 9:30 am, in reply to "Area Band Student Transfer Question"

student qualifies and is able to participate. The issue will be your active membership. While many good points about area representation, the powers that be are set up with the student's best interest and not trying to be sticky to keep them out. Definitely contact the region chair. Inform, and find out details. Don't rely on a public bulletin board for final answer.

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by DesertJazz on 12/20/2024, 5:51 pm, in reply to "Area Band Student Transfer Question"

Quick Google search:

Article 8: Change of School. Changing schools within the state after acceptance at any level of the All-State selection process will not affect eligibility for further competition. A letter certifying eligibility from the student’s former school administration, as well as from his new school, must be filed with the appropriate TMEA Division Chair. The student will continue the process through the Region/Area of the new school.

Now, I'm actually curious about how you are affected by the 15 day period for eligibility? Or is that only a UIL thing...

You should email TMEA with as much information as you have for the student and see what they have to to say. This is not anything I would take from a message board for being the letter of the law. Reaching out to your region coordinator would also be a very good move.

Best wishes!

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by older than dirt on 12/27/2024, 9:24 am, in reply to "Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question"

day restriction is UIL set for athletes.

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by Um.. on 12/28/2024, 3:23 pm, in reply to "Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question"

UIL governs eligibility for all students in extracurricular programs, not just athletes.

I've had a student denied participation in UIL because they moved in fourteen days before the contest, but after the Form 1 was required to be submitted. I wasn't allowed to include them because they weren't eligible.

UIL Eligibility

States quite clearly that they must have been in attendance for fifteen days prior to the contest. The music student part says "meets all requirements abov.e"

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by Um, Um... on 12/31/2024, 1:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question"

The 15 day "Eligibility" rule is for UIL events only. Your link in blue even states "UIL Eligibilty". UIL governs only UIL extracurriculars, not all extracurriculars.

NP/NP "Eligibility" is state law and has nothing to do with UIL governance.

Region/All-State process is TMEA, therefore, governed by TMEA rules. TMEA follows NP/NP because of state law not UIL. TMEA will decide what the student in question will be able to do, not UIL.

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by Me on 12/31/2024, 6:46 pm, in reply to "Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question"

And UIL produces the Side-by-side which includes the rule on page ten:

9. When does a student who enrolls after the first six weeks of the school year become academically eligible?
The student may gain academic eligibility at the end of the seven calendar day waiting period by passing all courses either for the school’s next three school week evaluation period or the grading period.

Seven days after enrolling. UIL requires fifteen.

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by DesertJazz on 12/31/2024, 5:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question"

As I noted in my original response, please get in touch with TMEA on a unique question like this. The reason eligibility may apply with that 15-day rule is on the linked side-by-side document at the bottom of TMEA's eligibility policy. (https://www.tmea.org/all-state/eligibility/) Generally, I read that as all items are applicable in that case. The 15-day waiting rule is not limited to athletics per UIL.

What could help is if the student was enrolled before the winter break. Fifteen days is not school days but calendar days, which we've all passed probably between the beginning of breaks and the Area hearing date.

Please email TMEA if you haven't already in a case like this. They will have experienced this question many times before and be able to give the proper response. The Yellow Board can be helpful, but I would never trust it on an eligibility question! There are so many factors at play. I will say TMEA tends to rule in the best way it can for the student on issues, so hopefully the student is eligible.

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by Ask your region secretary on 12/20/2024, 5:25 pm, in reply to "Area Band Student Transfer Question"

Ask your region secretary. Make sure to provide information like the student's former school, region, and area. They will have the correct answer.

That said, my gut instinct is that if they are from a different area, they may be SOL.

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by Beagle on 12/20/2024, 3:31 pm, in reply to "Area Band Student Transfer Question"

All TMEA rules apply in this case.

If the student is transferring within the same region, you might have an argument for the student continuing to be an advancing student. If they are changing regions, they are disqualified.

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by what? on 12/26/2024, 4:57 am, in reply to "Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question"

What does region have to do with it? If they are in the same a AREA they were headed for the same audition anyway. Is the concern that a region will be underrepresented and another region will be overrepresented? boo hoo. How about putting the student first instead of the region?

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by Me on 12/26/2024, 3:52 pm, in reply to "Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question"

A kid in Region 68 may have a much easier time qualifying for area than in Region 56. Especially on color instruments.

I see their point.

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by where is the justice? on 12/26/2024, 4:47 am, in reply to "Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question"

if that is true, I would march in to the executive directors office, and if I couldn’t get satisfaction, I would give him a piece of my mind.

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by Wow on 12/20/2024, 2:08 pm, in reply to "Area Band Student Transfer Question"

I cant help you with that, but I just want to tell you how lucky you are! The only transfers I get are kids who literally cannot read music

Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question

Posted by Yep on 12/21/2024, 4:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Area Band Student Transfer Question"

Same here...except I get the ones who have never been in band before, and "think" they can play drums.

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