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Re: South facing Needle
Hi Jim (long time!)...While I agree with much of what you're saying, I think however 6b can still get away with almost as many as 7a (not referring to a 'southern' 6b or 7a) or at least enough worthy choices. Many you mention I still see not just right here but a bit north of me too. Maybe not Photina or Camelia (except maybe one variety or 2?), but it's not uncommon to see Aucuba, Cherry Laurel, Magnolia, Crepe Myrtle, Y. Recurvifolia and such in 6b if not solid 6. Even Monkey Puzzle up in NW NJ and New England, and likewise Magnolia. Could throw in Rhodea Japonica for something smaller. Some might depend on the cultivar like Crepe Myrtles and Magnolias, but if people know or better yet the nurrseries offer those then they should make it long term.
Same with palms...surely not many but again with the right ecotype, cultivar or hybrid could make the difference. A colder Minor ecotype can likely make it (w/o direct wind), a Birmingham as I had one myself that did good until ants destroyed roots. Needles more difficult I'm sure below 7a, but if protected longer to get truly established maybe then but to get large I'd be amazed. Lol
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