The title that was opened for both the male and female line before has already been limited to children and grandchildren and could in future be limited even further.
That would mean that only the children of the Duchess of Brabant would be HRH prince(ss) of Belgium with Von Belgien/de Belgique/Van Belgie as their surname.
All other grandchildren as well as the (male line?) offspring of Laurent would be HRH prince(ss) of Saxony-Coburg-Gotha, duke/duchess of Saxony.
At present that is not yet the case but it would limit the use of the Of Belgium title to a smaller group of individuals and at the same time deliver a good title and historic name to the other descendants of Albert II.
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: Only great grandchildren are not any longer
: princes of Belgium, ggrandchildren are.. see
: arrete royale 2015
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: I think Dan was correct. It's about the
: surname and not about titles.
: That does not mean that in time Belgium will
: follow the Luxembourg example where the
: national princely title is only for children
: of the main line and grandchildren of the
: main line will have to settle for HRH
: prince(ss) of Saxony-Coburg-Gotha,
: Duke/Duchess of Saxony. However that was not
: yet decreed.
: So the grandchildren of the sovereign
: through his younger children will at present
: have the style of HRH prince(ss) of Belgium
: but the surname of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha .
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: other questions: often one hears that only
: the
: Duchess of Brabant can transmit the title
: Prince/ess on Belgium, but not her siblings.
: I do not really understand this statement:
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: The 2015 arête royal states that the
: children and grandchildren of the monarch
: will be prince/ess of Belgium... In my
: understanding the offspring of the younger
: siblings o f the Princess Elisabeth will be
: Prince/ess as they are grandchildren of King
: Philippe. However, their children will not
: be longer prince/ess as they are
: great-grandchildren of King Philippe. They
: may have now either the name de
: Sachsen-Coburg and Gotha or the title
: prince/ess of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
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: The only great-grand children of King
: Philippe who will carry the title Prince/ess
: of Belgium will be the grandchildren of
: Princess Elisabeth.
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: to my knowledge discontinued the use
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: So far, I have not seen the offical decree,
: but it sounds like they are only adopting
: the surname "de Saxe-Cobourg" and
: not the titles which they relinquished in
: WWI. I would think to re-assume the titles,
: they would need the permission of the head
: of the Ducal House of SC&G.
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: Were titles actually relinquished (according
: to the last laws of the house of Saxe-Coburg
: and Gotha, etc) or were their *use* merely
: discontinued? An important distinction!
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