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Mr Stott

Posted by Bungle on 25/1/2021, 12:57 am
Edited by board administrator 25/1/2021, 9:45 am

For all those questioning him, he's achieved more than anybody on here and Gannon, he hasn't made his money by making bad mistakes.
Hopefully now we'll see a different brand of football.
Perhaps the culture will be if you're playing well you play,sticking with players because they played for you before and do what you say even if their no better than players brought in.
Hopefully now if we sign a player from a club, he plays in the position he was playing not this crap he has to play in 3 or 4 positions.
Perhaps just perhaps when we won Gannon got all the praise when we won yet when we lost it was down to the players not doing what he said.
As for people saying I hated Gannon where have I said it, but I have stated the style of football under him was crap,boring and defensive, worrying about the opposition instead of going out and letting the other team's worry about us.
Now as to those calling people that as they say hate Gannon and calling them gobshites and bedwetters in the past, well in the last few day's I've nothing but vile comments towards Stott far worse than anything towards Gannon and I'm not watching County, well what a bunch of mard arses, don't bother don't think the club will miss you.
And for Ken Riley when you said your bringing your kids up because Gannon was the be all and end all not cheating,was respectful and all, just remember,a couple of seasons ago he was banned for a dug out brawl, chucking a player of a coach,so not all rosey just to name a few.
Mr Stott has my support of Stockport County

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Posted by Mustafapoint <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Mustafapoint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 9:51 pm, in reply to "Mr Stott "

Aye, as Bungle says:

"I have stated the style of football under him was crap, boring and defensive"

And it never won us anything.

PS Bungle

I do actually agree with you that people are out of order posting threats about Stott.

That's way out of order. I profoundly disagree with what he and the 'club' has done and how he and the club has handled it, but making threats against an individual because you don't like him (or her) is not on.

Re: PS Bungle

Posted by MickMck <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=MickMck' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 26/1/2021, 10:44 am, in reply to "PS Bungle"

Threats are always out of order, particularly from keyboard warriors.

Although I disagree with both Bungle and Mr Stott I would not deny them their bromance and hope they have a long and happy relationship.

Mick

Re: PS Bungle

Posted by Halfbreed <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Halfbreed' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 26/1/2021, 11:34 am, in reply to "Re: PS Bungle"

Re: Mr Stott

Posted by Sparta FC <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Sparta+FC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 8:08 pm, in reply to "Mr Stott "

Wow

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Posted by MickMck <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=MickMck' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 1:14 pm, in reply to "Mr Stott "

Thanks for putting us right, Smithers.

Mick

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Posted by Sandbach Hatter <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Sandbach+Hatter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 11:54 am, in reply to "Mr Stott "

Mark Stott has made his money outside Sport. Being a rich man rewarded by being an expert in one area doesn't make for being an expert in all others. There are obvious cross overs but that is why he appoints people who know what he doesn't.

Brian Kennedy promised much and part of his initial attraction to some was the size of his bank balance. I'm not for one minute suggesting that Mark Stott has similar motives as a lot of his plans have been very positive and the similarities seem restricted to being very rich. It's unfair to suggest otherwise unless we know him personally.

Jim, like every football manager who has ever drawn breath, has his faults and most supporters know this. For most of his time he has had to work with restricted budgets so players with the ability to play in other positions has been essential. Perhaps a squad of 30 odd would have enabled him to do so but the result would have seen poorer players arrive.

I didn't expect for Jim to be here for long due to the way the club was going. It just didn't feel that the structure suited him and vice versa but the manner in his departure which no doubt delighted you annoyed a great manner included mild mannered fans like myself. He deserved better in much the same way that everyone deserves better. How would you feel if your employer treated you in the same way.

Simon Rusk will get my full support as will Mark Stott. I don't know the full circumstances (though I can hazard a guess) and I don't imagine that he is in the day to day running of the Club.

I try to take a step back and accept that people have different views. I might be wrong (in your view) but that shouldn't stop me from having an opinion because none of us know absolutely everything. I agree with some things you say whilst disagree with others. It's not a case of being pro or anti Jim.

Mark Stott may be the finest thing to ever happen to us but time will judge that. I will give him my support to enable him to do so (not that he will need it).

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Posted by Roblee <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Roblee' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 10:08 am, in reply to "Mr Stott "

I think you are right to argue that Mark Stott should have fans support going forward. Similarly any new manager ought to be given a chance by supporters and not undermined and called names before he even starts. Where I disagree with you is that it serves little purpose now to voice harsh criticisms of Jim Gannon as he leaves the Club. He has worked hard and done his best to serve the club over the last 5 years and more. Let him leave with dignity and appreciation. I understand that some people are asking you to explain your dislike of him but you doing that at this time just throws petrol on the fire. Feelings are running high and seeing your criticisms baits people who then get abusive with you. Its just not very productive for anyone to get into that type of debate.

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Posted by kevintheking <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=kevintheking' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 2:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

I don't think many had any intention at the breaking news of having a go at Jim. A lot of what has been posted has been pointing out various downtimes under Jim in response to some peoples, outlandish, not supporting County any more, anti new manager, anti chairman,anti board posts we have seen on all the social media sites involved with the club.

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Posted by TheRealExile <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=TheRealExile' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 9:42 am, in reply to "Mr Stott "

So replacing a proven winner with a novice and partnering him with a past it manager with a losing record is a good idea?

Anyway we shall see, if I'm wrong I'll admit it, hopefully you will do the same.

The beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad so I had one more for dessert.

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Posted by Roscoe <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Roscoe' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 12:26 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

To be fair to McGhee he won at least 3 promotions as a manager.

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Nowt in recent times and his past clubs supporters don't seem to have been thrilled with him to say the least.

The beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad so I had one more for dessert.

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Posted by Ken Riley <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Ken+Riley' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 12:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

He did, but the football at times was dreadful. Remember the Reading team of about 92/93 that played offside tactics to extreme?

Re: Mr Stott

Gosh you do have a whole crop of potatoes on your shoulders don’t you?

I hope the impeccable Mr Stott gives you everything you are looking for. You clearly need somebody’s help.

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Posted by Bungle <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Bungle' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 9:40 am, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Oh dear not what you wanted to hear,go support someone else because obviously don't support the club

Re: Mr Stott

Why wouldn’t I want to hear what you’ve written? Frankly it comes as no surprise whatsoever.

Thanks for your suggestion. Should I wait to see where Jim gets his next job before deciding who to support next?

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Posted by Talisman <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Talisman' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 10:10 am, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Chelsea ... Frank Lampard to be sacked today .....

“ Believe you can and you’re halfway there “

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Posted by Red Hatter <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Red+Hatter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 8:49 am, in reply to "Mr Stott "

What a sad bitter individual you are!

Royal blue, not faded blue!

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Posted by Bungle <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Bungle' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 9:40 am, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Mard arse

Re: Mr Stott

There is something seriously wrong with you.

And why are you making unfounded allegations about racial abuse, which had no substance? You are on thin ice with this legally and I wouldn't repeat that.

Royal blue, not faded blue!

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Posted by mcduff <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=mcduff' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 1:28 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Has Bungles post been altered . .?

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Blimey, is there more than one Bungle?

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Yes to protect him, don't want another poster on here in legal hot water.

The beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad so I had one more for dessert.

Re: Mr Stott

You were just criticising people for the same thing you have just done

The beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad so I had one more for dessert.

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Posted by Nik <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Nik' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 6:36 am, in reply to "Mr Stott "

Who did he chuck off a coach?

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Posted by Bungle <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Bungle' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 9:41 am, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Geoff Horsfield when at port Vale

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Posted by Nik <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Nik' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 10:48 am, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

No he didn't.

Of the three things you've claimed about Gannon in your post, you've:

- Made a dangerously libellous claim

- Got the coach story completely wrong, given it was Gannon who left the coach after being assaulted by Horsfield (by Horsfield's own admission)

- Over-exaggerated a coming-together where one party literally threw themselves on the floor as a 'dug out brawl'

What an absolute shambles of a post.

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Posted by mcduff <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=mcduff' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 11:43 am, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

It was Gannon who left the bus.
But he didn’t appear entirely blameless according to press reports at the time. Seemed like a clash of two strong personalities.
Horsfield was apparently suspended after the event pending investigation by the board, reinstated, and shortly after JG was gone after a game at Accrington.
Google Bus Gate Port Vale, it’s all out there

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Posted by Nik <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Nik' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 11:56 am, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

I know, that's what I said.
I've heard the story from Geoff Horsfield's side as well as Tom Pope's on the podcasts they've done where it's been mentioned.
What hasn't been mentioned is Jim's side, as he's never spoken on the subject nor has he apparently heard the podcasts.
Suedehead mentioned on the other board that there is apparently more to it:

"Horsfield was effectively 'on report' to the chairman/CEO/somebody at the top of the club for previous poor behaviour. As a result, Jim had to fill out an attendance card for Horsfield every day to show that he'd been to training, completed certain tasks etc. I'm not entirely sure what happened with Jim granting time off (think it was for court, possibly as a witness/reference for someone?) but I believe it wasn't Jim's call - it had to go higher up the chain. So Horsfield wasn't there and Jim marked it as him missing from training. I don't know whether Horsfield had told Jim previously he wasn't going to be in, but I don't think Jim was in a position to grant/deny permission to miss the session."

As I said over there, the truth will lie somewhere in the middle of it all. Horsfield's side is out there to be heard which portrays him favourably (although I use the term loosely given his self-admitted actions) and I'm sure Jim's would too.

The main point here though, is Jim didn't chuck Horsfield off the coach.

Bungle by name...

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Posted by mcduff <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=mcduff' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 1:25 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Read Mail on line “Port Vale bus row”
This doesn’t appear to be from JG or Horsefield’s side of the story.
Other reports from other papers similar story.

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Posted by bang em in bingham <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=bang+em+in+bingham' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 2:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

The Daily Mail, that source of credible news the world over....jeez

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Posted by mcduff <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=mcduff' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 3:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Ah, so the Daily Mail is a member of the GOB.

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Posted by Nik <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Nik' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 1:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Ahh, so is your point that Horsfield did leave the coach?

Because that is covered in Horsfield and Pope's recollection but that was after Gannon had already left the coach.

At no point did Gannon throw Horsfield off the coach; the Vale chairman asked Horsfield to leave the coach. This was after Horsfield confronted and assaulted Gannon on the coach (which he admitted to himself).

As I say, give the Geoff Horsfield episode of the Undr The Cosh podcast a listen. He talks in details about the entire incident, including the build-up to it on there and, despite it being his side of the story, still comes off as an absolute bell.

EDIT: It's here if you want to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlCdPmbGOcU&feature=emb_title

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Posted by PlanetEdgeley <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=PlanetEdgeley' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 5:35 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Hi Nik
Yes I heard that interview a while ago. Horsfield didn't do himself any favours, did he, even if his mates were laughing along with him?

He was honest enough to admit that Jim's training sessions were really good, and different to what he's seen before

"I love them boys!"

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Posted by Nik <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Nik' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 6:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

The part where he hung around the training ground just to annoy Gannon was particularly childish from him.

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Posted by mcduff <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=mcduff' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 4:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

From what I have read Gannon left the coach and met his legal representative. Horsefield left it later in the journey after apparently receiving a phone call to return.
To me, IMO, I think JG throughout his career, has on occasions been his own worst enemy

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Posted by Nik <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Nik' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 4:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

And that's fine to think that, but false statements like Bungle made here only exasperate that viewpoint unfairly.

Jim should at least be judged on fact, not ill-informed nonsense.

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I thought we were moving on from this....why dont you just find another pastime?

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Posted by Bungle <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Bungle' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 9:42 am, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

I have but a few on here wanted my views and opinions so I have if that's OK

Re: Mr Stott

Yes, fair enough, Bungle, you have given reasons for finding fault with JG. Well, as I have opined further up, I'll take 'boring' football that has given us so much success.

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Are you going to be like this all day, I'm trying to work!!!! I have removed one of your allegations for your own good, thin ice posting unproven stuff like that.

The beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad so I had one more for dessert.

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Posted by Bungle <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Bungle' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 9:54 am, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

I'm replying to what people want, but hey I won't be on all day,as I now have things to do.
So I'll be proberley be off now until I support my club tomorrow if it goes ahead

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“I now have things to do”

Yes, hurry up, Mr Stott’s arse won’t lick itself

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Posted by MickMck <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=MickMck' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 1:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

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Posted by North Cyprus Hatter <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=North+Cyprus+Hatter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 12:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Super reply Ken, outstanding!

Viagra: It won't make you James Bond but it will make you Roger Moore!

Re: Mr Stott

Will he get there before Dosser, that is the question?

Viagra: It won't make you James Bond but it will make you Roger Moore!

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Posted by dosser jacket <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=dosser+jacket' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 1:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Behave u fka

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Dosser, there's no letter k in the abbreviation of Football Association.

Re: Mr Stott

I will give it to you Dosser you can give it out but you can take it back, no offence meant my old mate.

Viagra: It won't make you James Bond but it will make you Roger Moore!

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I can take owt. Come on dish it out, Islander 😊

🔪🔫 Pick yer weapon, meet halfway between your house and mine at dawn

Re: Mr Stott

Come on, Doss, keep up with the times. The modern weapon is a keyboard!

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Posted by Bernie <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Bernie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 2:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

"Halfway between your house and mine at dawn"??? I make that somewhere in the North Adriatic Sea. Can you swim?

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And leave Dawn out of it

The beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad so I had one more for dessert.

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Posted by zalby57 <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=zalby57' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 5:47 pm, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

we`ll bring the yellow ribons and inflatable water wings

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👅😛😉

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Posted by Nik <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Nik' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/1/2021, 10:45 am, in reply to "Re: Mr Stott "

Funny how you're now replying to what people want. Whilst you're at it, how about those links to other teams' forums?

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