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An Awful Decision !

Posted by hedgegrower <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=hedgegrower' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 10:30 am

An Awful Decision!

Help the Hatters are distressed and appalled by the news announced last night by the Club regarding Jim Gannon.
Jim has been a valued member of the County Family for many years ,serving with distinction as both player and Manager of the Club.
The shamefully inadequate statement issued by the Club, only served to compound the awfulness of the decision to sack Jim -an outstanding Manager performing well!
Indeed, we were Champions under Jim in our last completed season, fourth in the league after Tuesday`s excellent win away at Daggers, despite the interrupted nature of the current season, and clearly playing well.
If, as the Club`s statement states, the decision was based on `culture` and not results based, it simply beggars belief as Jim is a proven quality Manager, who knows what it takes to make County tick, has done so many times in the past, , was doing it now, and is pretty much County `culture` through and through.
Jim has not only been a magnificent servant of the Club , over the years, but he has also always been a reliable and staunch supporter and friend of Help the Hatters.
We value that friendship highly, and we will cherish it no matter what turns up around the next corner!
It is clear however that we as an organisation will have to consider our position in respect of the Club, and a further statement will be issued as soon as practicable .

Help the Hatters

The real Ian Brown.

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Posted by Halfbreed <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Halfbreed' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 11:07 am, in reply to "An Awful Decision !"

Excellent post!

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Posted by MickMck <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=MickMck' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 11:27 am, in reply to "Re: An Awful Decision !"

Seconded.

Mick

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Posted by Roblee <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Roblee' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 11:01 am, in reply to "An Awful Decision !"

You might not like the decision but it is the owners right to decide who his manager is. Loyalty to the Club comes before loyalty to Jim Gannon. That is the way of it for me but I guess it is up to individual fans to make their own decisions. Maybe some will follow Jim to his next Club. I copy my earlier message which expands a little on my thoughts.
- "In some ways Jim is a bit like Trump - he is a determined character who does things his way and has built a big supporter base at the Club. He shows loyalty to people/players and people are loyal to him. He has been around for a long time and he has been a sensible, stable figure through all the storms and uphevals the Club have gone through over the last decade and more. He has steadily improved things on the playing side and his approach has generally been to build and develop younger players to the point where they gel into a successful team. He has many good points but he is certainly not faultless and without his critics.
As others here have said we are not a one man Club. And my loyalty is always to the Club through thick or thin , good decisions and bad. There have been good managers before Jim Gannon and there will be good managers after him.
In football it is the owner who determines who his manager will be. It is not a fans choice - we tried the fans trust thing and it proved disastrous. The owner puts his money in and he , or she , makes that decision. Mark Stott has bought into the Club to the tune of a million pounds and more. The investment and improvements are there for all to see. He needs to be shown respect for that. He might have made a mistake by dispensing with Jim Gannons services but it is his right to do it. I am sure Jim will have been treated fairly on his departure and he is likely to get other job offers sooner rather than later. Time will tell how things work out. Fans will have to hope for the best and wait and see."

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Posted by Sir-Tifiable <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Sir-Tifiable' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 4:12 pm, in reply to "Re: An Awful Decision !"

I don't agree with what's gone on, especially if it's down to 2 or 3 players whinging to execs but I can't disagree with your post either. Lot's of unhappy supporters at present.

Always in the mire, only the depth varies.

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Posted by mcduff <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=mcduff' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 11:14 am, in reply to "Re: An Awful Decision !"

Good post Roblee.

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It's also the owners right to ignore the supporters should he wish. A right he apparently is exercising here, irrespective of what the supporters feel!

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Posted by dosser jacket <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=dosser+jacket' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 12:32 pm, in reply to "Re: An Awful Decision !"

Ignoring the fans

Who are the ground improvements and increase in player budget for?

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I am not sure you are in a position to speak for all supporters. But I agree the majority of fans feel positive about Jim and respect his hard work and dedication. But that does not really change things. The owner has the right to decide who he can and cant work with. You may not like it but that is football and the way it works - it was ever thus and it always will be.

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The response to your 2nd point re the state of football is: Yes, unfortunately that's correct!
However, I'm not trying to speak for all supporters, just myself. Let the others speak for themselves, and looking through this board since the news came out, I think most feel the situation has been poorly handled.

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Posted by Talisman <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Talisman' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 12:04 pm, in reply to "Re: An Awful Decision !"

Life is constantly changing, for good or bad ...

When circumstances are beyond our control we wait for that new dawn for the corner to change again for the better

Jim won’t be out of a job for long

“ Believe you can and you’re halfway there “

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Fleetwood

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Wrexham. He has mentioned them in glowing terms in recent interviews.
I think he’s been aware of something in the pipeline for a while, as in quite a few interviews he’s sounded to me a bit like someone giving an interview presentation for his own job, which often happens at work when changes or jobs are going and current job holders have to give a presentation to management as to why they should be the one to keep their job.

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Mmm why not ...

Hope you’re right Doss love to see him back in the “ saddle “ asap 😊

“ Believe you can and you’re halfway there “

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If clubs don't offer him a post, then it's their loss. 🏐

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Posted by kevintheking <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=kevintheking' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 1:13 pm, in reply to "Re: An Awful Decision !"

What a disgraceful post. What next rename, Help the Hatters, Help the Gannon ? "It is clear however that we as an organisation will have to consider our position in respect of the Club, and a further statement will be issued as soon as practicable . " What nonsense, not every County fan was a Gannon fan !!

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Posted by Mustafapoint <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Mustafapoint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 10:34 pm, in reply to "Re: An Awful Decision !"

Yes, because he didn't do much.
Saved us from a relegation.
Nearly got into playoffs following year.
Took us up the following year.
Took us a high position before administration.

Not given any support in his second term.

Look what he achieved in his third term and look where we are now.

Yes, we obviously have every reason to be a Jim Gamnon fan.

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Posted by Bungle <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Bungle' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 10:43 pm, in reply to "Re: An Awful Decision !"

Also had bigger budgets than any other managers since Elwood.

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Posted by Ken Riley <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Ken+Riley' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/1/2021, 11:00 pm, in reply to "Re: An Awful Decision !"

Most of those increased budgets were based on the fact that incomes were increasing because he was delivering on field success.

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Because he was given a chance here, other managers haven't sacked after 10 games here 20 games their.
Apart from County with his budget what has he done elsewhere absolutely nothing because he hasn't had money like he has here. Peterborough didn't last long, Port Vale didn't last long, Motherwell didn't last long get the story.
Like kev earlier said that you not replied to yet, he's sent your message again what you had to say and it makes you a complete utter fool.

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Odd that those in charge at Peterborough and Motherwell at the time were very complimentary about him, but understood his reasons for wanting to stay living in Stockport.

Remind me of the list of managers who have been given 10 or 20 games here before being sacked.

I’ll be waiting.

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Posted by Bungle <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Bungle' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 23/1/2021, 12:22 am, in reply to "Re: An Awful Decision !"

What a load of bollocks, so he takes jobs 150 miles away and 250 miles away and then says I want to live in Stockport so I can't commit to you.
So I'll live in Stockport and I'll commit to you,
By the way does Dave Conlon get your support tomorrow

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Posted by Ken Riley <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/info/user=Ken+Riley' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 23/1/2021, 12:58 am, in reply to "Re: An Awful Decision !"

Answer my question and I’ll answer your question.

Additionally, why is what I said bollocks, other than you can’t actually engage in reasoned debate?

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Kev, why have you put it after mine

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No idea !! It was supposed to appear after the ridiculous main post. Don't know about the other board but he's getting a savaging on FB. Not good for the future of HTH to antagonise any supporters.

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