Q: Would you rule out putting any Labour into No 10 willing to allow a second Scottish independence referendum?
Swinson says the Lib Dems are opposed to second independence referendum.
She says Labour are in the clutches of Corbyn and his supporters. Even if the leader were to change, the direction of policy would not.
Whether you agree with her or not isn't the issue here (personally I think a stance of '2nd Referendum on a deal we do post-election v Remain' is reasonable, but that's by the by). It's whether she'd do a deal with Labour at all. She's repeatedly said she wouldn't, so she's consistent. I'm going to take her at her word. If you'd rather she did a deal with the Tories, then that's up to you. It looks like that's what she's saying to me.
Of course she's going to talk up her chances of being PM. That's her job. It's pie-in-the-sky but it's fair enough for her to say in her position. But she will also know that, in all likleihood, she's going to have form part of a coalition with one of two parties and she repeatedly bins off Labour. Again, her call. But it's a clear message.
Vote LD, get Tory. It's plain. If your stance is that getting a Tory government is worth the smallest chance of Brexit being averted (and as you couldn't stop the tuition fees debacle, I'm a tad less than confident you can stop Brexit in coalition with the Tories), then that's entirely up to you.
As it happens I think your best chance of stopping Brexit is with Labour. Whatever Corbyn's stance on it (and he has been routinely rubbish and wrong on this), were the LDs to hold the balance of power Labour would much more easily be persuaded of ways to bin or significantly soften Brexit. Their membership is significantly Remain-leaning, even if there are areas that are Labour/Leave, and the MPs, I think, will be happy to persuade Corbyn of the sense in joining wih the LDs to this end, rather than see some minority government or other fail to deal with the matter.
Both Labour and the LDs should be seeking to nullify the Right on this matter. I think both Corbyn and Swinson are letting down those who have had enough of 9 years of Tory lies and failure. They're playing politics, but they're playing to lose, as it stands. I fear the Tories are going to massively lie their way to a victory that will have severe consequences. Their natural arrogance could well carry them through.
Then we can see more of Rees-Mogg blaming the working class for dying in their sub-standard homes, the odious little ****.
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