yeah- i have only one copy of one of the 3 tapes we made..." high tops & hardpacks"- id love to dub it down to c.d. and get it out, jaz has everything in a safe someware in middle earth i think, so maybey one day it will be for everyone to hear, when we get some money to put it out er sumpin, ya know?-- and we don't pretend or dis-aknowledge our childhood, there's just never been a real push to re-releese anything from our p.b.g. years, ya dig.-jeff