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Professionalism

Posted by SS 17 on December 1, 2022, 12:38 pm

Guys want to be paid like professionals than start acting like it. If it weren’t for the guys that came before you there wouldn’t be any softball and those guys acted like responsible decent humans (most of them) but now with payrolls getting ridiculously high and certain sponsors paying the money it will drive some people away. I’m all for being compensated for your time away from work but for any softball player to make more for 20 weekends then they do at their regular job is ridiculous. Loyalty and honesty is long gone for a lot of players and I’m thankful for the guys that stay true to their teams no matter what. J Mags you hit the nail on the head and I hope that as a group we fix this sooner rather than later. No need to name any of the problems as we all know who or what they are.

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Posted by Indy on December 1, 2022, 1:24 pm, in reply to "Professionalism "

I 1000% agree but,this player has a history of doing this,so sponsors should be more careful when giving out money before confrence contracts can be signed..

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Posted by DJ19 on December 1, 2022, 1:28 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

The "signing bonus" is a sketchy thing. From my understanding, you're not officially locked on a roster until you step on the field with them. I'd probably pay signing bonuses after the first inning of your first game. The sponsors need some kind of protection too. They make this game possible for all of us in the conference.

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Posted by 2 sides on December 1, 2022, 1:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

What if up front money wasn't given when promised. Not saying that's the case but it has happened in the past large and small amounts.

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Posted by SS17 on December 1, 2022, 1:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

There are usually 3 sides but you’re right as it the same guys over and over that do this. Christ one of them went jumping from 3 different teams and lied to each sponsor group the whole time

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Posted by Who is that? on December 1, 2022, 3:00 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

Could it be the guy who plays catcher on your team? Maybe the sponsor group who called every major team and then again bailed on you guys.

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Posted by To who’s that on December 1, 2022, 3:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

Some sponsors attach themselves to players so they can use said players to get on a team and yes I believe that pair could beat three of a kind.

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Posted by Money on December 1, 2022, 4:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

Resmondo and their affiliated bat companies have given out the largest salaries in the conference for over a decade. Dan Smith started giving out ridiculous amounts of money just to contend with Resmondo. Last year Smash It and Monsta were offering 6 figure contracts to more then half their players. Now this year, Monsta is offering 100k plus to players who swing Monsta as well as Sonny offering very large amounts weekend money on top of that, to more then half their team. Now that Dan Smith is done spending all that money, Resmondo is unable to get all those free bats from Rawlings, and Katz and Smash it are no longer having a team due to spending to much money, the salaries should be going down.

Monsta has offered crazy amounts of money for their players this year which forces other teams like MPT and CE to spend more money then they are accustomed to as well as keeping AA teams from making the jump. As long as a few of these sponsors keep offering crazy amounts of money, they are unable to afford just to lock in a player, players will bounce back and forth to get the highest prices until sponsors stop offering it. I agree with JMags statement but his team is the highest payroll in the conference.

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Posted by VOR on December 1, 2022, 6:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

players should know the sponsors and history prior to making a choice.
Sponsors should know the player prior to signing the player.

It's softball, and the4 sposnors get no money out fo their contributions to the sport we love.

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Posted by FAn on December 1, 2022, 6:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

Players (major) made more in the 80's and 90's than they do now....

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Posted by Mad Dog Vachon on December 1, 2022, 7:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

Yes Sir and nobody talked about it. But in the end it pushed sponsors out the game because players got to greedy. Giving players bats instead of all it in cash is genius though and should help push through this crisis. The game will continue.

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Posted by Indy on December 1, 2022, 8:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

The true victim here is Jeremy Fry, could you imagine quitting your job for a promotion elsewhere, then they decide to hire somebody else instead? Good thing the Rock Run guys are tight knit and took him back. This whole thing gives MPT a black eye.

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Posted by Not even close fry l on December 1, 2022, 9:18 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

Left before bama even went to mpt fry said he wanted to play where he was comfortable so stop speaking on things you know nothing about and just assume

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Posted by Fry on December 1, 2022, 10:00 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

Exactly, Fry wanted a year playing at the AA. Carucci and Fry talked and and they parted on good terms. Imagine making up stories just to try to make any team look bad because your salty.

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Posted by Indy on December 1, 2022, 10:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

Ok, spin it however you like, wonder who this troll is?
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Posted by Spin? on December 6, 2022, 9:44 am, in reply to "Re: Professionalism "

Spin what Fry backed out weeks before Cayton signed with MPT. What angle are you getting at?

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