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Classifications

Posted by Viewer on June 19, 2022, 9:24 am

Let’s talk more about classifications and certain sponsors being able to dictate where their teams land. It seems Anarchy is classed A with 4 points. I know I know, it’s done made up guideline because USSSA wants to be able to back out and make up rules as they go along. Just get rid of the guild lines then. If it’s on performance, after this weekend Adiktiv from TX should be reclassified to AA and Kut4 should be on the radar as well to be reclassified.

Dale, does USSSA keep a list of teams that get reclassified and publicly say why these teams get reclassified or is it just to help let’s say teams that are sponsored by Rick that sell all these manufacturers bats have a opportunity to win their class World Series?

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Posted by Sad on June 19, 2022, 10:17 am, in reply to "Classifications"

Sounds to me you are not just a “viewer” you must play on a crap A team and you want all the good A teams bumped. Nkk ok talk about West Point, L&S glass. Get better and good luck at all your softball dreams….

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Posted by I agree on June 19, 2022, 12:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

All those teams should be brought up and if one A team is bumped they all should be bumped.

Anarchy has 4 points, that’s over the limit. The rumor is Nitro Circus got bumped to AA when they are a mediocre A team at best. They couldn’t even win a rinky dink tournament in their own backyard. I’d say if USSSA and their powers to be had integrity they would bump them all or none as long as teams stayed under the point guideline.

Last year S&E got shafted and forced to AA, and Thunder (weird) were allowed to stay AA. So let’s get real USSSA. Last year Thunder made it to Sunday every tournament they played in.

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Posted by Blm on June 19, 2022, 1:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

White privilege at its finest!!!

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Posted by DW on June 19, 2022, 2:26 pm, in reply to "Classifications"

I am not involved this year in classification, awards, or the major or watch list creation.

I can say its never easy.

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Posted by Cuh on June 19, 2022, 10:19 pm, in reply to "Classifications"

So Adiktiv has a great showing and they need to be bumped? Lmao sit down clown

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Posted by Usssa on June 20, 2022, 7:36 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

See you in AA clown!! You are a AA team period!!!

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Posted by That’s right on June 20, 2022, 2:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Adiktiv
Kut4
Anarchy with 4 points
Nitro Circus
West Point

Adiktiv and Kut4 are hands down the best teams on this list. If USSSA or that’s right, the committee cause they want to pass the buck doesn’t make these two teams AA along with Anarchy for having 4 points bumped, none of them should get bumped.

Re: Classifications

Posted by GoTeam on June 20, 2022, 5:49 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Go Team

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Posted by Fat Me goes hard on June 20, 2022, 6:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Did you not see Adiktiv play in Chicago? Straight dog water

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Posted by Cuh on June 20, 2022, 6:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

That’s craaaazy

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Posted by If you think that’s crazy on June 20, 2022, 7:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Why isn’t there more talk about Anarchy having 4 points? I guess no one wants to talk about them because Rick sells all these manufacturers bats? Everyone is talking about Kut4 and Adiktiv but let’s be real, those two teams suck.

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Posted by Cutta22 on June 20, 2022, 8:22 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Nitro Cirsus "Back Yard" Tournament was won by a very good AA team. CFA is solid. They have some of the best chemistry in the conference an they play the game, not to mention they won in Atlanta the week before. So let's not act like some trash team won the Maryland major.

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Posted by Mark Patterson on June 21, 2022, 12:49 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Inconsistency is what keeps these teams from being bumped.

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Posted by @Mark Patterson on June 21, 2022, 4:14 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

If you are so happy with your pitchers and you are getting LC and Faron back why does some of your players continue to ask Jonas to come play for you? And since it seems that you come on here and tell the truth please don't say they don't or you don't know they do.

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Posted by I agree Mark on June 21, 2022, 6:47 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

So why should any of them get bumped or have to drop players to stay A? If any team should be forced to drop players it should be Anarchy because they are at 4 points.

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Posted by New guy. on June 21, 2022, 8:57 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

New to upper level softball. So everyone talks about anarchy having 4 points. Can some explain what that means. I assume it has to do with player ranking. But how many points to a player get and who etc. thanks.

Re: Classifications

Posted by DW on June 21, 2022, 9:00 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"
Edited by board administrator June 21, 2022, 9:05 am

Roster points are an offseason guideline and an in season max that if you exceed you are auto bumped.

Players on the major list are 1.25 roster points.

Players on the watch list are .75 roster points.

If an 'A' team goes over 3.5 points they are auto bumped.

When teams make a roster move the team is reevaluated for classification.

If a player leaves a team the player is reevaluated as to his classification at that time.

The biggest myth in conference is that teams are classified only on points. Points are one part of classification but you still have can't have an excessive amount of chips (players that played higher and have higher level experience).

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Posted by Ok then DW??? on June 21, 2022, 9:52 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

How many points does Anarchy have?

Out of all the teams mentioned above what teams should be bumped in your opinion, based on your softball expertise?

Re: Classifications

Posted by DW on June 21, 2022, 9:57 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Proton, Nitro Circus Klutch, and Anarchy are all pushing the limits but Nitro and Anarchy continued to improve their roster after pushing the limits which is a red flag. All of them are also new teams that intentionally built a higher level team to play lower which shouldn't be allowed in my opinion.

The rest of the teams seem fine where they are and shouldn't even be looked at.

I am just glad I am out of it and don't have to make those decisions.

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Posted by Come on on June 21, 2022, 10:01 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Anarchy picked up a MAJOR player in Shannon Smith.

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Posted by DW on June 21, 2022, 10:03 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Not sure what you are trying to say or why you responded to my post?

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Posted by Come on on June 21, 2022, 10:15 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Anarchy has 4 points.

I’d take Toby over Messer all day. Everyone knows that CG is pulling the strings on that team and that’s why they picked up Messer. Both of those guys are cancer.

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Posted by New guy on June 21, 2022, 10:16 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Thank you DW so who are the point holders on this anarchy team? I got to watch them at a local tournament. Thanks.

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Posted by DW on June 21, 2022, 10:20 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

The Major lists are here:
http://usssa.com/slowpitch/majorPlayerList

The current rosters are here:
https://web.usssa.com/sports/ConferenceUSSSA.asp?WTD=3&SeasonID=26

Re: Classifications

Posted by Wow!!! on June 21, 2022, 11:34 am, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Some integrity here. Appears a player from Anarchy mysteriously disappears from the watch list.

What’s your thoughts on this DW?

Zirkle Major
Smith Major
Streets watch

Moralez taken off. Lmao.

Usssa is a bunch of 🤡 🤡🤡🤡

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Posted by Smash it on June 21, 2022, 12:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Smash it runs usssa. Anarchy is owned by smash it. Anarchy will never be re classed. Just like the 220 bats still being made or repainted by smash it and usssa allows it. The 220 bats are allowed 2 years later because smash it still has 30k of them left to sell. Pay attention.

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Posted by Jb12 on June 21, 2022, 1:26 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Mark probably doesn't know. I like our pitchers, but Jonas is my friend, ive won a world with him, and he's one of the top pitchers in the game. So yes I've asked him if he isn't happy and if he could get released, I'd talk to my sponsors about picking him up. I've also talked to Seth,Joel, and Katz about it too, you know since they sponsor and coach the team and are also my friends.

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Posted by Corruption on June 21, 2022, 1:35 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

Appears same BS still goes on. Make one sponsor happy and F the rest. Smart move.

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Posted by Mark Patterson on June 21, 2022, 10:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

If you would like me to answer a question, I’d like to know who I’m speaking to at least.

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Posted by Deez on June 22, 2022, 11:45 pm, in reply to "Re: Classifications"

They try hard and have fun. That’s all that matters.

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