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Pushing umpire

Posted by CM91 on February 1, 2021, 11:56 am

Who’s the conference player that got ejected and then proceeded to push the umpire down?

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Posted by Observer on February 1, 2021, 12:06 pm, in reply to "Pushing umpire "

He has already apologized and is dealing with his lapse of judgement. He is the one that has to deal with the consequences. There is no need to shame him on here.

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Posted by Disagree on February 1, 2021, 12:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

That is just being an enabler.

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Posted by TM60+ on February 1, 2021, 1:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

If you knock an umpire down it should be a minimum of a 10 year suspension... maybe even lifetime

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Posted by Amish on February 1, 2021, 1:06 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

In the I think Alabama/Florida game what got Castillo so upset with the Alabama player? Didn’t look that bad. Was there more before that started? Just wondering.

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Posted by Sooo on February 1, 2021, 1:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

Who is the guy?

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Posted by Butch Parnes-umpire on February 1, 2021, 1:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

Most states have enacted statutes making assaulting a sports official a criminal offense. It is also a civil tort. Personally, I am getting tired of people thinking they can push, slug or TOUCH an umpire, referee etc. and then simply claim it is a lapse of judgment Having umpired for 52 years and also being an attorney for 42 years, all players need to know that such conduct will not be condoned. Players and managers expect umpires to respect and not touch them. This is just a game. Like players, Umpires have wives, kids and jobs. Assaulting an umpire can cause irreparable injury. I agree that it should be a lifetime ban; then maybe the message will clearly be heard loud and clear.

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Posted by here you go on February 1, 2021, 1:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

tre campbell

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Posted by VOR on February 1, 2021, 2:05 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

An official carries the same stature as a police officer; if I remember correctly.

They are an official, like a police officer that has to maintain and manage rules set in place.

I also umpire and this was shared one day as we were chatting during a break; look it up.

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Posted by Amish..TM60+ on February 1, 2021, 5:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

From the looks of it...the little guy should have considered himself lucky...

Maybe someone needs to ask a couple guys in that game....like Harvey or better yet Andy what coach Cheff or a good minor league coach would have taught his team to do when a little middle infielder tries to lay his leg in front of the bag to block it.. the answer...

The middle infielder is lucky he was able to stand up.

At Louis and Clarke Andy’s GREAT COACH CHEFF would have taught his players to try to SNAP THE LEG IN HALF...The get up and peacefully stand on the bag.

Andy knows any player that didn’t follow coach Cheff’s philosophy would have had the gloves on for about four fights in a row for a month.

My guess is the middle infielder that pushed the runner was never taught (heck this is softball, maybe he never played any serious baseball) what happens when you try to block the bag by throwing your leg down in front of it...and...that base runner gets shoved after being overly nice by not trying to hurt the little guy.

Yep...it would be interesting to hear what Andy or any of the teammates on the Florida team that had played organized ball had to say about a player getting in a hissy fit because someone came in “kinda” hard while he was blocking the bag... my guess is... they would say something like this...

“come on little guy...you should be thankful he did not SNAP YOUR LEG IN HALF.. what the hell were you thinking? and then getting up and shoving him in the BACK... Man!!!”

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Posted by Rick on February 1, 2021, 7:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

Tre has openly apologized to the individual and posted an open apology on his FB page. Doesn’t take away from his actions, but Trey is a class act on and off the field. He chirps back and forth with the best of them..

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Posted by Hardrock on February 1, 2021, 7:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

Agree, the middle infielder was in the wrong. He had his leg in front of bag. And then it looks like he tried to trip runner as he was standing up. That little pip squeek should be tossed. Especially shoving guy in back when he's not looking.

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Posted by FAn on February 1, 2021, 8:29 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

What about the guys like Harvey and Santanna that ran to get in his face after being pushed from behind by a guy that was in the wrong?? They were having a teammates back, I get that part nut total bitch move to run up to a guy thats getting rushed from all sides.

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Posted by Amish on February 1, 2021, 9:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

Looked like it was a high throw and Castillo was put in a bad spot. But the runner didn’t look like he did anything wrong. That’s why I was asking if there was something that had happened prior. Just a question

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Posted by Amish on February 1, 2021, 9:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

How about 3 guys getting in his face and he stood his ground. Good for him.

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Posted by Huh? on February 1, 2021, 9:33 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

He pushed an umpire to the ground, but he’s a class act on the field?? You have really low standards for what constitutes a class act. I’d hate to see what it takes to not be a class act in your opinion. SMDH.

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Posted by Comedyu on February 1, 2021, 11:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

Class act on the field!? Cmon clown

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Posted by Military player on February 2, 2021, 12:18 am, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

Anyone that knows Him knows he always runs his mouth on the field. So to say he is a class act is insulting to everyone else who plays the game the right way. Demarini should be embarrassed to stand behind someone like that

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Posted by Clown on February 2, 2021, 8:47 am, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

Class act??? Thats hilarious. Well if there is no consequences im pushing umps all year. Hopefully someone has my back and calls me a class act.

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Posted by Jb12 on February 2, 2021, 11:52 am, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

Nobody was mad about the slide, not sure what his hurry to get up was since the ball was at the 3rd baseman. Orlando got elbowed in the head as the runner tried to get up and thats why he was mad. Harvey seen the elbow and thats why he rushed out. Hitting middle, hard slides, and jawing are all part of the game.

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Posted by geez on February 2, 2021, 1:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

everybody has seen the video, there was absolutley no malice in his elbow if that's what you call it, bottom line is O was completely blocking the bag and was in the wrong

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Posted by big ben 7 on February 2, 2021, 2:00 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

i just watched the replay 5 times 2 me good hard softball play both ways jmo

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Posted by Wondering on February 2, 2021, 2:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

Where is the video of this?

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Posted by Amish on February 2, 2021, 4:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

JB12 thanks for responding. Couldn’t see it on the video.

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Posted by big ben 7 on February 2, 2021, 5:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

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Posted by DW on February 2, 2021, 5:06 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

I do not have the video of the umpire being pushed down. That occurred at a Freedom association tournament in Myrtle Beach

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Posted by Amish on February 2, 2021, 5:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

DW How did you see the video?

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Posted by DW on February 2, 2021, 5:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

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Posted by big ben 7 on February 2, 2021, 5:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

sorry guys i was talking about the orlando castillo play at 2b

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Posted by JB....TM60+ on February 2, 2021, 6:35 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

I watched the video of the play at second base about four times...I didn’t see any elbow throw...maybe looking at the video again could clear that up..

What I remember seeing is a guy blocking second base as the ball game in.

A runner that slid in but didn’t try to blow up the second baseman when with all rights and past coaching he would have layed out the second baseman with a hard slid

then a middle infielder “maybe” throwing his arm out as the runner tried to get up fast...i assume this is because the throw to third was off line and maybe it was possible to steal third.

JB... did the throw get by the third baseman? did he field it clean?

then I saw the second baseman push the runner in the back from behind..

JB has posted on this tread and it’s interesting he didn’t address how a good baseball coach would have taught him to take back the bag if the infielder was trying to block...

I can only share what I was taught...and taking out that fielder real hard would have been in the group of knocking down an on deck hitter standing by the box trying to time your pitch as you warmed up.

In other words... I was taught there is a HUGE price for an infielder to pretend like he was a catcher in the old days blocking home on a play at second... It’s like a runner coming in high on a double play...you try to lay him out as hard as you legally can.

So JB... what were you taught to do to a middle infielder trying to do that (block the bag) at second? I think you played some level of baseball. and I highly doubt you were taught anything other then...do whatever you need to do to let that infielder know he doesn’t own the bag

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Posted by Amish on February 2, 2021, 7:00 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

If it were JB doing that Castillo doesn’t do that to him. Also I didn’t see the elbow in the video but his hat definitely gets hit. So maybe. But JB would take the bag. Probably not get up and run. But definitely getting to the bag. JB plays the game right. Hustle hustle. Just my thoughts

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Posted by Amish.. TM60+ on February 2, 2021, 8:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Pushing umpire "

EXACTLY...

I know I would have hit him “legally hard” as hard as possible.

YEARS ago at Disney I was playing a deep first base and Helmer hit a two hopper to the 2b in the first second hole.

This meant I had to sprint to first and since the ball was being throw from behind me I had to blindly find the bag while turning.

I ended up right on top of the bag and Helmer knocked me 10 feet down the line and I ended up on my azz.

I got up and looked at him and said “Sorry, that was all on me...I got in your way”.

I was coached that you as a runner have a more likely risk of injury trying to avoid the collision instead on going straight into it.

The runner owns the bag...if you get in the way...expect to pay the price.

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