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Elite players on roster

Posted by Curios man on December 18, 2020, 2:25 pm

Question, how many elite players can be on a roster, example how many C elite guys can a C team have?

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by Ack on December 18, 2020, 2:57 pm, in reply to "Elite players on roster"

No limit, they just can't play D. The tag is to an elite player can't play down lower.

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Posted by Curious man on December 18, 2020, 3:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

Do you have that in writing or the link to utrip website where that rule is.. our director says it’s only 3 per team

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by Ack on December 18, 2020, 5:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

There is nothing written that says it because there is no rule. If u were to put a team of C elite players together they might get bumped up to B. If your director is saying 3 per team, I would challenge that thought because it is not a rule.

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by Baseball fan on December 18, 2020, 10:43 pm, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

I don’t even see player rankings under players usssa page...

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by Look at every C team in MI on December 21, 2020, 1:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

Every C team in Michigan has:

2 "C Players"
3+ "B players"
14 "C elite Players"

And are still able to play C. The Michigan Utrip director sucks ass at his job. If they even have one up there.

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by Wake up, Dummy on December 21, 2020, 4:23 pm, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

I don't know what the + means, but otherwise the team you just described is a leg C team.

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by Slicker98 on December 21, 2020, 4:46 pm, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

The only reason the Elite tag is in the game is to require said player to stay in that division or higher... A team can have 14 "Elite" players.. it does not matter. The usssa director here in MI 2 years ago made an entire C team, C Elite players mid season..

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by Example on December 21, 2020, 5:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

C players can play down in D
C Elite players can't play D

The rule is very simple.

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by Mr.E on December 21, 2020, 8:25 pm, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

Using "elite" is just another way to be reclassed down and sandbag, without allowing you to play down even further. You can have a few B players get reclassed to C elite and throw them in with 3 B players and now you pretty much have half a B team playing C.

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by Player on December 22, 2020, 11:58 am, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

This happened to us earlier this year. We played a midwest C team, they had their 3 B drops and 6 C Elite players.. Coincidentally that were all on the the same team that was an auto bump to B a year or 2 earlier.

It happened with a few teams at Worlds.

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by JHick92 on December 22, 2020, 5:05 pm, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

Several reasons a player could have an elite status. The player may have applied individually for reclassification. The player may have been part of a team reclassification, (12-15 elite status on one roster). The player may have been moved up to elite status to prevent him from playing down a class as a chip. The State Director in each state is aware of how the players arrived at the elite status. Some areas allow one elite player that reclassified down to play with the three chips. Some are allowing two or three. What you can be sure of, is if you are attempting to build a team with three chips and multiple individual players that reclassified down to elite status, the NCC will flag your team to be moved up in season. Hope this helps with the original question.

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by NCC member on December 23, 2020, 12:10 am, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

Hicks92 you are completely wrong.

One Elite player cannot play down with three chips.

Elite status does not mean shitt within the classification. It only means those players cannot drop down to the next level.

A team of 15 C Elite players can play together on a C team and will be legal.

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by Turd Ferguson on December 23, 2020, 10:52 am, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

That was the point of my post. Its comical.

A C team could be sanctioned with 3 B chips and get their other 13 B chips appealed down to C elite and be legal

Re: Elite players on roster

Posted by DW on December 23, 2020, 10:58 am, in reply to "Re: Elite players on roster"

And Hickeys point is yes that could happen but they most likely would be bumped to B because they would play too good for C

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