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2021 USSSA rule changes

Posted by old guy on December 14, 2020, 5:03 am

Were there any rule changes that were done at the convention? HR limits ect... I haven't seen anything.....

Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes

Posted by Floating Rubber on December 14, 2020, 9:27 am, in reply to "2021 USSSA rule changes"

Floating Rubber will now only be used in C and below tournament play in USSSA. If an Open or B and above tournament is held, all teams will be required to toe the rubber.

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Posted by TM60+ on December 14, 2020, 11:20 am, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

I guess that new rule away from the floating rubber makes sense... after all we all know this B and higher batters would have too hard of a time hitting against a pitcher using the floating rubber.

Either that’s the season or... maybe the rumor is true about a andy pitching for a B team in 2022

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Posted by 55+ player on December 14, 2020, 12:28 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

Tim give it a rest unless you produce some data to support your claims. Because in 5 years of senior ball I have seen more pitchers get hit in 10 years playing in The Conference.

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Posted by geriatric on December 14, 2020, 2:37 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

That's because they are old and cant move.

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Posted by 55+ on December 14, 2020, 5:14 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

come on... can’t a guy have a little fun about Andy being scared to use the floating rubber?

then again...I have yet to see Andy pitch in seniors... maybe usssa seniors doesn’t use the floating rubber so Andy can have a place to pitch in seniors. I don’t know.

As for senior pitchers being hit... age...age....age... rocket bats...rocket bats.... Crazy hard balls.

It sounds like ssusa bought the world dates from lvssa so I would guess next year the rock ball will be out of play...I have heard ssusa balls are harder if you are hit by them so... YIKES.

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Posted by wrong again Timmy on December 14, 2020, 7:33 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

The reason why pitchers get hit more with the floating rubber is because they are moving off the rubber and aren't set to field the ball.

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Posted by MP on December 14, 2020, 7:51 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

Say what y'all want about anyone being scared pitching or whatever. I can tell you right now that Reckhart aint scared of crap. I watched him pitch in front of the rubber, get set and get squared up in each thigh on 2 different occasions. Unreal.

Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes

Posted by Timmy.....MP on December 14, 2020, 8:03 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

And just so you know, there are several of the better D/C pitchers that want the floating rubber gone as well

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Posted by Baseball fan on December 14, 2020, 11:32 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

And if he was pitching with a floating rubber he would have a chance at those balls instead of getting blasted in each leg. Floating rubber is only thing that allows pitchers to change the timing of hitters.

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Posted by MP...TM60+ on December 15, 2020, 1:43 am, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

ANY pitcher that doesn’t want the floating rubber is either an older fatter or slower footed guy...plain ignorant ...or smart enough to understand they wouldn’t stand out of the floating rubber was in play.

Everyone knows the fixed rubber only helps the slow footed sloths stay in the game.

The floating rubber is built for great defensive, quick footed athletes...that’s why the older slow pitchers don’t want it...

You know how the Andy types guys get removed from
the game?

Four or five young stud fleet footed shortstops spends all winter learning how to control a knuckleball from 56 feet. one pitch... OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

At least the Andy types have been smart enough to corral you guys... but then again... how tough is it really to herd lemmings.

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Posted by DW on December 15, 2020, 1:45 am, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

or possibly andy would never lose with the floating rubber

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Posted by Tim.....MP on December 15, 2020, 2:08 am, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

You just proved your ENTIRE argument of the “floating rubber” wrong in one sentence. You can NEVER ask for the floating rubber again. You can however ask for the rubber to be moved back to 56’. After all, that is EXACTLY what you said. “Spend all winter learning how to control a knuckleball from 56 feet”. Why would you not learn to control a pitch from 47’ to 59’ all in between the minimum and maximum.

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Posted by Hey Tm on December 15, 2020, 8:58 am, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

Which slow footed B player talked USSSA into removing it from their class of play also? ha, moron

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Posted by Step out rule on December 15, 2020, 11:04 am, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

If we are penning rule changes now can we please keep the batters in the box instead of this step out after they get rolled a cookie on 3-1 that they didn’t have any intention of swinging at in the first place.
People get worked up about the floating rubber looking dumb but all this step out crap acting like they just saw an aroldis Chapman 100 mph pitch is just dumb as can be.
Keep the batters in the play so they don’t have time to step out and whine bc they didn’t like what type of icing was on the honey roll. Maybe games won’t roll hour late.

Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes

Posted by MP... TM60+ MD on December 15, 2020, 12:01 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

sorry... I never said that... but you do know my view that allowing the floating rubber would
soon eliminate the slow footed/ limited range pitchers from the game.

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Posted by Easy Rule on December 15, 2020, 1:08 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

1 time stoppage per AB

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Posted by Increased Average on December 15, 2020, 3:49 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

They do not realize if they smash that honey roll they average will go up 100-150 points

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Posted by Player on December 15, 2020, 4:47 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

If a player wants time at 3-1 he needs to ask for it immediately instead of waiting for the pitcher to get set.

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Posted by 555 on December 15, 2020, 8:53 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

I would think pitchers would jump at using the floating rubber, it allows more defense and safety.

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Posted by Mr.E on December 15, 2020, 10:32 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

I'm a fan of the floating rubber as well. Why wouldn't you want to give yourself the only advantage possible for a pitcher? It seems like every conference tourney, a pitcher is getting blasted. Why not change the batters line of sight? Nothing like standing 5 feet back and hitting the ceiling with a pitch, followed by a more flat one while toeing the rubber. Mix in a few pump fakes and now they don't know what's coming. You only can do so much as a pitcher, when you're still throwing the ball 5mph. I think guys don't want it because they're just following the herd and don't want to be frowned upon. I think that Andy would be that much better.

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Posted by Mr E... TM60+ on December 16, 2020, 12:00 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

on delivering the pitch you could be right... if Andy wanted to out in the time to learn the throw his knuckleball from 56 feet it would move even more because of the increased speed on the pitch.

But... the other HUGE advantage of 56 feet is... If a young, truly great fast, great infielder did the same thing adding that glove to the infield would be a true difference maker... it would essentially be... a six man infield.

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Posted by wrong again Timmy on December 16, 2020, 2:24 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

If it was that easy some great young infielder what have made that jump just to play upper level softball. How funny you think it would make it like hitting against six infielders. Then please explain your comments with some data. Because USSSA, NSA and SSUSA all have done study's and having a floating rubber didn't decrease the amount of times a pitcher got hit.

Just Tim's BS over and over again!!!!!

Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes

Posted by TM60+ on December 16, 2020, 5:08 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 USSSA rule changes"

Pitching from 56 feet is 12 percent more distance... in each direction

Depending on pitched ball speed the pitcher should have at least 20% more backing up and reaction time.

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