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2021 bats

Posted by ITK on November 22, 2020, 11:28 am

Concerning the new bat standard

Certain Associations are claiming they are making the game safer by going to the new 240 standard in 2021 but, utrip is changing to a much hotter ball ...... so what are they really doing to help keep the players safe?

Additionally, if rumors are true that utrip is demanding to have a sole stamp bat, this just makes no sense and costs players money. Didn't they learn from the ASA only bats?

Anyone got any opinions on this topic

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by DW on November 22, 2020, 11:37 am, in reply to "2021 bats"

I did not know they are going to a hotter ball? Where did you hear this?

Except for conference your old utrip bats are still good in utrip.

I am not aware of anyone saying softball will be safer. Do you have a link?

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by MDPlayer on November 22, 2020, 4:20 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

Dale the Pro M seems hotter than a regular classic M

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by Not really on November 22, 2020, 5:03 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

As an infielder in the conference I wouldn’t necessarily say the pro m comes at me harder than a classic m ball. They are just not as affected by weather as much. So they tend to fly better in any condition. Just my own opinion of them.

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by DW on November 22, 2020, 5:30 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

Pro M isn’t a new ball being used for the first time in 2021.

It has been used for 1.5 years.

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by MP on November 22, 2020, 5:32 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

DW, so are you saying the 220 bats are no good for Conference play this year?

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by DW on November 22, 2020, 5:36 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

I haven’t heard any final word on it but I thought the bats had to be 240 bats for conference or maybe at least test at 240

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by coach 09 on November 22, 2020, 8:19 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

What we were told this year going into World's was that yes ALL bats will have to pass 240 compression next year. That includes bats from this previous year.
If you test a bat and it is above 240 you can swing that bat in conference events.

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by Matt Fox on November 22, 2020, 9:04 pm, in reply to "2021 bats"

I haven’t played in the conference in going on 3 years and this year was the first time I have hit the Pro M and those balls fly just as good if not better than a stadium.

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by 555 on November 22, 2020, 9:21 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

If the change to 240 is not about safety then why not just leave the bats at 220?

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by Player on November 22, 2020, 9:29 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

Because 220 is obviously retarded. I think there’s a chance we can make a dent in the rampant cheating as well. You can shave a new bat and it’ll pass 220 pre tourney. But will it pass 240?

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by MDPlayer on November 23, 2020, 9:39 am, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

If a bat can be shaved to pass at 220 why wouldn't it be able to be shaved to pass at 240?

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by MDPlayer on November 23, 2020, 9:40 am, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

Pro M balls haven't been used locally at all. MD is slated to start using the ball locally 2021.

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by Player on November 23, 2020, 10:24 am, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

It was a question. A lot of them come out of the factory at 245. With thinner walls they might not pass at 240 now we’ll see

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by Joe Watcher on November 23, 2020, 10:40 am, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

A 44 375 ball has been around for 25 years plus actually, the pro m isn't some new spec

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by SB player on November 23, 2020, 11:20 am, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

The ball specs are not the only determining factor on a ball being hot or not. If you believe that, you're living under a rock.

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by Joe Watcher on November 23, 2020, 2:30 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

I know a good deal about softballs but please SB, enlighten us as to why specs are not the only determining factor.

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by DW on November 24, 2020, 6:11 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

I think you are forgetting the incredible amount of backlash they got when they announced the 240. Everyone was saying it was a money grab because now they had to buy all new bats.

So they made it so the 220's are good forever and now people still aren't happy...

Re: 2021 bats

Posted by 555 on November 24, 2020, 9:58 pm, in reply to "Re: 2021 bats"

It’s not so much about the change but some players that play some Conference events will have to get new bats. I think they should have done what they did in 2013 when they changed the stamp and had a set date when the old stamp was good until.

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