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Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings

Posted by DW on November 13, 2020, 10:02 am
Edited by board administrator November 13, 2020, 10:04 am

Yesterday on facebook someone said that it was a "USSSA conspiracy" and "political" that Team 24 was listed in the final SoftballCenter computer rankings at #2.

The computer rankings are a formula that calculates the rankings based on each teams performance in conference and world events for the entire season. So how can it be a "conspiracy" or "political"? In fact the computer rankings were created to judge performance based on the entire season without human intervention or politics or conspiracies playing into it. You input the scores into a spreadsheet and based on who teams beat, who they lost to, where they finished, and what class of teams they beat and lost to it spits out the rankings. The same way it has since 2008.

Smash It won 12 tournaments and the Conference regular season point standings and finished 1st in the Computer Rankings. Team 24 won 4 tournaments and the Major World Series and finished 2nd in the computer rankings by a slim 5.6 to 5.2

Same thing happened on the men's side 3 years in a row. The team that finished 1st in the computer rankings did not win the Major World Series.

https://www.softballcenter.com/2020-womens-conference-early-season-update/

If someone doesn't understand this then give me a call and maybe I can explain it more clearly on the phone 440-715-3301

Here is the formula used since 2008:

The minimum number of Conference 'B' and above games to be eligible for the Computer Rankings is currently 12.

The computer rankings rules have been unchanged since its beginning in 2008.

Rankings Formula explained:

Each team receives:
8 points for defeating a Major class team
5 points for defeating an A class team
2 points for defeating a B class team
1 points for defeating a C class team

Each team receives an additional:
8 points for winning a tournament
6 points for finishing 2nd
4 points for finishing 3rd
2 points for finishing 4th

And finally each team has their point total reduced by:
1 point for each time they lose to a major team
2 points for losing to an A team
3 points for losing to an B team
4 points for losing to a C team
5 points for losing to a D team
6 points for losing to a E team

Each teams total points are then divided by the number of games they have played against upper level (Major, A, and B) teams.

So the formula in mathmatical terms would be:

AveragePointsPerGame =
((WM*8)+(WinA*5)+(WinB*2)+(WinC*1)
+((WinTourny*8)+(2ndTourny*6)+(3rdTourny*4)+(4thTourny*2))
-((LossM*1)+(LossA*2)+(LossB*3)+(LossC*4)+(LossD*5)+(LossE*6))))
/ (total games vs M, A, B)

In short the formula is:

AveragePointsPerGame =
((weighted wins against upper teams)
+ (weighted top 4 in tournament finishes)
– (weighted losses))
/ (# of upper games)

The average points per game is then sorted highest to lowest and those are the rankings.

Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings

Posted by Kenny Rogers on November 13, 2020, 10:18 am, in reply to "Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings"

Wait!! What the.....??!!! I got a sneaking suspicion someone was trolling!!! Awesome!!! A “conspiracy”??!! “Political”??!! What is the world coming to? Hahahaha!! “Political” and “conspiracy” should never be used in the same sentence with “slow pitch men’s/women’s softball”!!! If whom ever posted that meant to get a laugh and get over on people, all I have to say is, well done my friend!! Well done!!! Hahahahaha

Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings

Posted by Kenny Rogers on November 13, 2020, 10:23 am, in reply to "Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings"

Hey DW, I am trying to call you to discuss this but no one is answering! How can we resolve this without proper communication? Hahahaha!

Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings

Posted by Gmelt on November 15, 2020, 9:30 am, in reply to "Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings"

People crack me up worrying about rankings. Who cares what you are ranked if your in the tournament and win it you are the champions and you get the ring. Never seen any rings giving out for being ranked #1.

Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings

Posted by DW on November 15, 2020, 9:34 am, in reply to "Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings"

In softball players and teams seem to put much more emphasis on the World tournaments.

So the world tournaments produce a World champion.

The Conference regular season produces a regular season champion.

The computer rankings showed who did the best start to finish for the entire season.

Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings

Posted by Kenny Rogers on November 15, 2020, 11:55 am, in reply to "Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings"

I’m with you Gmelt. I wrestled for 17 years(freestyle, high school, college and then freestyle again)and never put any stock into what a person is ranked. Baseball/softball are a lot like wrestling. I call them “individual team sports” . Meaning although you’re on a team but when you’re on offense it’s one on one. Probably doesn’t make sense but the point is that in those sports an individual can get hot and change a game/sport.
Rankings....shcmankings!!! Upsets are why we watch sports and rankings help to manufacture excitement!!! In reality though they mean jack dookie!!!! Although in 20 years at a high school reunion you will inevitably hear “I’m homeless right now but remember when our JV water polo team was ranked 48th in the tri state, intergalactic milky way galaxy league?!

Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings

Posted by DW on November 15, 2020, 11:59 am, in reply to "Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings"

Rankings are just something to look at during the season to guage where you are.

The #1 seed hasn't won the major in 4 years.

Maroadis was like the 12 seed for the AA and won it this year.

But apparently teams that win worlds and aren't ranked #1 think they are disrespected. So be it I guess. Computer rankings are done by the computer so a computer disrespected you...

Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings

Posted by Joe Watcher on November 16, 2020, 2:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Women's Conference and World tournament computer rankings"

most of the time the teams B and below with the best power rankings are the biggest sandbaggers too

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