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Bump List

Posted by Schu on November 13, 2020, 8:03 am

When does the list drop?

Re: Bump List

Posted by Real Talk on November 13, 2020, 5:22 pm, in reply to "Bump List"

Far later than it should or is necessary. Worlds are over, power rankings have been settled, this should be done and determined weeks ago. Every year, same BS. Teams lay in limbo longer than is necessary.

Re: Bump List

Posted by Team building on November 13, 2020, 6:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

Build your best team and let the player rankings determine your class. Quit sandbagging

Re: Bump List

Posted by Schu on November 14, 2020, 5:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

Not sandbagging. We plan to on playing B. Don’t have the money to play A cause Texas doesn’t have many A teams.

Re: Bump List

Posted by ITK on November 15, 2020, 11:01 am, in reply to "Bump List"

I've seen other associations put their bump lists out. U-trip is always last. Direct result of poor leadership IMO, but hey, I'm just a C non-conference player so I guess "cater to the top 5% of your customer base" is their continued m.o. Ya know, cause the major lists are always out early.

Re: Bump List

Posted by DW on November 15, 2020, 11:35 am, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

I am pretty sure all the world teams know if they are bumped or not. Top 10% if your world had 25 teams are auto bumped.

Bump list has always come out at the convention and they have to wait for the state directors to send in their bumps else you will cry that you got bumped after the initial list came out. It is a no win situation.

Also it is hard to believe other associations send out their bump list before utrip since all of them don’t rate their own players but use utrips work.

Re: Bump List

Posted by DW on November 15, 2020, 11:53 am, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

I'd be willing to bet your state director has known for weeks, why not just ask him/her?

Re: Bump List

Posted by Schu on November 15, 2020, 1:46 pm, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

I have he hasn’t responded. He doesn’t always respond to people.

Re: Bump List

Posted by DW on November 15, 2020, 4:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

What state

Re: Bump List

Posted by Coach on November 15, 2020, 6:33 pm, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

Texas

Re: Bump List

Posted by DW on November 15, 2020, 6:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

The state director in Texas is dealing with some serious non softball related issues and needs our support and prayers at this time.

Thank you for understanding.

Re: Bump List

Posted by ITK on November 16, 2020, 8:32 am, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

DW your last line is exactly what my post was about....the u-trip arrogance.

Re: Bump List

Posted by DW on November 16, 2020, 10:10 am, in reply to "Re: Bump List"
Edited by board administrator November 16, 2020, 10:14 am

While you think its arrogance it is actually a fact. Each week I get requests for players to be dropped in class so they can play other associations.

Why?

Because the other associations is looking at the utrip PR rating for that player.

The other associations should have their own ratings. But apparently that is perceived by you as "arrogance". So be it.

Re: Bump List

Posted by ITK on November 16, 2020, 11:23 am, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

Maybe SOME do, but not ALL like your previous post said.

Re: Bump List

Posted by DW on November 16, 2020, 11:34 am, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

what association doesn't?

GSL West Worlds hasn’t happened yet.

Posted by CM on November 16, 2020, 11:38 am, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

GSL West Worlds hasn’t happened yet.

It’s this upcoming weekend.

I’m sure it will come out shortly after that.

Re: GSL West Worlds hasn’t happened yet.

Posted by DW on November 16, 2020, 11:46 am, in reply to " GSL West Worlds hasn’t happened yet. "

This is true, the season isn't over so to bump players would mess up their PR value for GSL West Worlds.

Re: Bump List

Posted by ITK on November 16, 2020, 1:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

NSA, One Nation, WSL, Freedom. These all have their own player ratings on their site. I'm sure there are others

Re: Bump List

Posted by DW on November 16, 2020, 1:26 pm, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

I know for a fact some of the associations you listed will not let a player play certain levels based on utrip PR value or major and watch lists.

So they are using utrip.

Re: Bump List

Posted by Joe Watcher on November 16, 2020, 2:10 pm, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

Yall are legit arguing about something that comes down to the discretion of individual directors for the most part........unless you are a regular conference player for a few years, player value is highly fluid and negotiable in practice, all directors all associations

Re: Bump List

Posted by Coach on November 16, 2020, 7:28 pm, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

DW,

Most definitely ,and I hope he is able to get through all of it. It is a big topic of discussion at most tournaments here in TX. Would nationals consider naming an interim director until he was able to get a handle on his non softball issues?

Re: Bump List

Posted by DW on November 16, 2020, 7:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

I wouldn’t know

Re: Bump List

Posted by Indy on November 17, 2020, 3:31 am, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

That’s kind of accurate, those do have their own but DW is also correct, they also use USSSA. PRVs to determine player rankings.

Re: Bump List

Posted by @coach on November 17, 2020, 6:19 am, in reply to "Re: Bump List"

That is why there are assistant directors

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