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AC03

Posted by Fan on November 3, 2020, 10:34 pm

Big fan, cant get straight story. Usually Andrew comes on here himself to disspell rumors. Where is he playing next year?

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Posted by Lol on November 4, 2020, 9:09 am, in reply to "AC03 "

He has signed and took money from 3 teams

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Posted by Amish on November 4, 2020, 9:52 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

What teams bud?

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Posted by Bud on November 4, 2020, 11:58 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

Bad draw
Smith
Pure

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Posted by AC03 on November 4, 2020, 12:16 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

At this point in the game I don't have that answer. I'm contemplating taken a year off maybe part time. Lot's have yet to Be decided, I'll be representing Pure as far as product. Dan is going to do what he has to do and I respect that. I told DW this a few weeks ago. Sorry there's not much more to this.

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Posted by Wow on November 4, 2020, 12:37 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

I blame that 1 out you made in the Major WS lol!

Dude seriously was like 29-30

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Posted by Amish on November 4, 2020, 1:02 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

I think I’ve seen on his player page he’s got a real job probably doesn’t need the 3 teams money.

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Posted by KYBoy on November 4, 2020, 1:34 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

I’m sure he doesn’t, but he’s the best overall player in the game. He should be playing for any team he wants.

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Posted by big ben 7 on November 4, 2020, 1:43 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

KY BOY I AGREE ABOUT AC WOULD LOVE 2 SEE HELMER GET HIM

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Posted by Last years WS GOAT on November 4, 2020, 4:03 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

So for the last ten plus years we have read on this site...

He’s a winner that’s all that matters...now.....

Some have been saying attitude removes one of the best players from last years world series? HUMMMM

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Posted by Buddy's Sporting Good's Softba on November 4, 2020, 7:38 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

Sounds like Dan has him under contract for another year. As we know DS doesn't play games. He already retired another prominent player for messing with him.

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Posted by Hey stockpot from Buddy's on November 4, 2020, 7:42 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

DS has/had zero to do with bama and he proved that their contracts are toilet paper

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Posted by Wilkins on November 4, 2020, 9:29 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

All contracts are toilet paper. It’s whatever usssa decides and they will always decide with DS. They are scared of him.

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Posted by DW on November 4, 2020, 9:42 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

I think you are confusing personal services contracts with the usssa player contracts.

Usssa only recognizes the player contracts.

And as you should know usssa sided with cayton not dan smith last year. And will side with whoever dan sanchez signed a usssa player contract this year.

So you are wrong

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Posted by Baseball fan on November 4, 2020, 9:50 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

Isn’t this thread about why AC03? And who he is signed to or not to?

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Posted by DW on November 4, 2020, 10:18 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

Looks like the topic changed to Cayton.

I believe Collins probably has a personal contract with Dan Smith which of course means nothing to usssa.

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Posted by What I remember on November 5, 2020, 12:20 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

Just an observation, I remember maybe last years Major WS AC03 got into it with KP23 I believe, looked pretty heated. Not sure their personalities click and past beefs are squashed, if not, no chance Helmer takes him. Great player, not likely to play for Resmondo tho.

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Posted by Eye on November 5, 2020, 8:44 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

Your crazy if you think helmer wants him. Helmer has a good group of guys with good heads on theirs shoulders. Why would he want a guy who is the opposite

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Posted by Wilkins on November 5, 2020, 9:08 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

I promise you it’s only because DS allowed it to happen. USSSA player contracts don’t mean sh!t. So kids my a$$ DE you are wrong

Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman

Posted by DNR on November 5, 2020, 9:09 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

We are going to revoke your license, in FL you are over your limit.. we have fish floating every where from swimming 90 MPH straight into the Boat and breaking their neck..

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Posted by DW on November 5, 2020, 9:12 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

incorrect.

usssa player contracts make it so a player cannot play for another team in that softball year.

You are probably referring to the fact that a usssa player contract cannot make the player actually forced to play on your team. They could sit out but cannot play for another team.

Those are two different issues.

And its DW not DE

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Posted by txballer on November 5, 2020, 9:20 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

Yup, just like Barry Sanders. Lions had him under contract, wanted to be traded. Lions wouldn't do it, so he sat out

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Posted by DW on November 5, 2020, 9:24 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 "

Correct.

Wilkins is talking about a situation where Dan Smith wanted one of his players and said they were paying the player to sit out if he didn't get his release.

The player could not play for dan smith without his release but he could just sit out the rest of the season. So it puts the team whose player is being stolen in a ridiculous situation.

I have proposed a solution to the situation but usssa has not accepted my solution.

It is simple. If a team wants a player from another team they simply email whoever is in charge of usssa classification. The person in charge emails the team and asks if their player can be talked to. If the team says no then that player can never play for the team asking during that season.

Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman

Posted by VOR on November 5, 2020, 10:44 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman "

AC is a great player, full of passion, wants to win, plays very hard, and these are not traits by guys that some of you are connecting with AC.

Don't know him personally, but I like the way he plays the game, and he is a WINNER!

It sucks that if a player doesn't fit the "majorities personality" that he has an attitude. I see him as a professional, and plays the game right.

He is very successful and that at times can instill more attitude against; envy is a bad thing!

I have been around the game for a long time, and have seen major tantrums, and crappy attitudes during Major NIT's and Conference events. You all choose to pick on AC and forget the past.

I once saw a ROID RAGE that a well known player threatened to beat up the OPPOSING SPONSOR when his team (higher class) was getting beat. We turn away from that!

To many are quiet and affraid to voice true opinions or support AC on here!

Good luck in whatever you do this year, and sure there is more to this!!

Stay safe and OPEN MINDED!

Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman

Posted by RP on November 5, 2020, 11:18 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman "

Wilkins is right and It’s more than just Smith

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Posted by DW on November 5, 2020, 11:19 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman "

Can you or Wilkins actually list an example of a usssa contract not working?

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Posted by RP on November 5, 2020, 11:23 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman "

It’s toilet paper. Doesn’t work and depending on friendships is how these people and players make their decisions. It’s a big clique I was once on the inside of. You all hate that an insider seen biased actions and report on it. I was even apart of biased actions.

Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman

Posted by DW on November 5, 2020, 11:31 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman "
Edited by board administrator November 5, 2020, 11:34 am

The topic was the usssa contract.

If player john smith signs a usssa contract, the sponsor signs it, and it is sent to usssa, then that player cannot play for another team that year unless the sponsor rips up the contract which is on file at usssa.

I believe you are talking about your situation where you wanted to join Pure Sports in 2018. As you know nobody said you could not join Pure Sports in 2018. The committee did say Pure would have to play Major. Again you are still years later confusing an approved roster move with team classification and now somehow trying to twist it to talk about usssa player contracts.

Its all good, I understand the frustration and you'll be happy to know I haven't run the classification committee since the end of 2019. On a side not as you know I voted to allow you to play and they remain AA but as you also know the committee ended up being correct and I ended up being wrong because Pure Sports was undefeated at the AA Worlds.

Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman

Posted by RP on November 5, 2020, 11:55 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman "

Yea you want to see all the talent out there DW. Whether full time or part time. Like Drive was gonna be forced to be major if I joined even thought they were well under the points. The whole thing is run by buddy ball and that’s cool too. No one really cares at the end of the day except the 538 players in conference and some fans who like softball as entertainment. Way bigger things in life especially in today’s world. Still a fan of usssa and just see it could be better

Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman

Posted by RP on November 5, 2020, 12:02 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman "

Now you have A teams winning AA worlds which is cool and your contemplating raising AA chip points and doing the AA World on baseball fields. Again it’s just contemplating but what happened to forecasting... No one saw this coming? Each year teams seem to be getting better out there or there is atleast more equal talent. Not sure which.

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Posted by Leonardo DiCaprio on November 5, 2020, 1:25 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman "

RP, quit posting here and go help with counting votes. PA is screwing us along with Michigan

Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman

Posted by Amish on November 5, 2020, 4:04 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman "

Absentee ballots are screwing us. I went to vote and someone already voted for me. Pretty screwed up

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Posted by Team Player on November 9, 2020, 11:45 am, in reply to "Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman "

4:30 mark... seems like there is a good relationship between teammates here

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Posted by 5:20 too on November 9, 2020, 11:41 pm, in reply to "Re: AC03 FISH CAN never be fisherman "

he's getting yelled at again

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