Love these two guy for the very reasons JB listed in his post. They always respected my wife and I as sponsors, played hard 100% of the time and I loved having them on my team. could say same for Mully, Riley, Pink and many more that I loved being around. I miss the game so much but since retiring from work I just can't travel for health reasons and for money reasons. I never payed guys very much - covered their travel and rooms primarily. LOVE THIS GAME & THE FRIENDS WE MADE. WE never had kids of our own to spend money on so we "adopted" all these great guys who played for our ASTROS teams. I worked a 2nd job doing taxes 5 months out of season for 30 years to play at this level and would do it again if I could - even at 75 years old. Love all the guys who played for us, helped me sponsor and played against.