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Revert Area Judging Format

Posted by poiuy on 11/6/2025, 9:19 pm

Title.
Keep state judging what it is - fine. But bringing that format to the Area level is not healthy for students or staff.

Re: Revert Area Judging Format

Posted by Old Dude on 11/10/2025, 9:09 am, in reply to "Revert Area Judging Format"

None of it is healthy in regards to caption judging. ;-)

Re: Revert Area Judging Format

Posted by op on 11/8/2025, 9:54 am, in reply to "Revert Area Judging Format"

for example - if you already exist in a toxic workplace environment, with a 3-person staff with each specializing in ww/br/per, the scoring format invites further toxicity. further, at this level, a ww student does not need to know that her brass section is the reason they didn't make x goal.

3 music judges - each score music ensemble.

Re: Revert Area Judging Format

Posted by me on 11/12/2025, 9:17 am, in reply to "Re: Revert Area Judging Format"

Well for what it's worth, at Area C 4A, they didn't stick to their caption anyway. When the "percussion" judge says twice to the snares, "you need to clean that up" and the rest of the tape is focused on anything but percussion, I don't think you really have caption judging. I feel like we either need to have just music judges or actually have caption judging because right now we don't have caption judging. At least from what I saw.

Re: Revert Area Judging Format

Posted by Why? on 11/7/2025, 2:29 pm, in reply to "Revert Area Judging Format"

Why do you say that?

Re: Revert Area Judging Format

Posted by Me on 11/7/2025, 12:34 pm, in reply to "Revert Area Judging Format"
Edited by board administrator 11/11/2025, 8:38 am

And get rid of this top half bottom half BS. Why even have finals at this point. The first five bands end up being an exhibition performance. Random draw is the only thing we can do to be close to fair for performance order.

*edited by TYB host due to language

Re: Revert Area Judging Format

Posted by Agree on 11/7/2025, 4:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Revert Area Judging Format"

I agree the bottom half and top half is something that needs to go. It makes no sense to me. If you look at Area contests before this went into effect, you could still make an impact in finals because judges didn't have a predetermined order. Now you know the last half are the bands that go to state, everyone else keep lower.

We've gone from 12th to being at State before (and not the last spot moving on either!). Definitely can't happen now. Very little changes happening from prelims to finals now. While that's good for some bands, it seems like we should just have the top half perform then. Make it random, and better yet - a new judging panel for finals!

I also strongly think that UIL telling judges they are outliers as highs or lows now, is also something that is questionable. Lots of changes recently that benefit very few I think, and possibly tarnish the results of contests.

Re: Revert Area Judging Format

Posted by Open Minded on 11/7/2025, 12:20 pm, in reply to "Revert Area Judging Format"

OP could you expand on your concerns beyond a general statement? In what regard do you consider the scoring system unhealthy for staff and students when applied to the Area level? (Not trying to pick a fight. Genuinely interested in your thoughts.)

Re: Revert Area Judging Format

Posted by Mr. Dude on 11/7/2025, 10:22 am, in reply to "Revert Area Judging Format"

Maybe...I just think maybe having the same judging in each round would be ideal, as opposed to adding new layers each round.

Re: Revert Area Judging Format

Posted by Respectfully on 11/7/2025, 9:57 am, in reply to "Revert Area Judging Format"

I don't agree or disagree-I'm neutral on this one. However, if you're going to make this statement, can you back it up?

"bringing that format to the Area level is not healthy for students or staff."
Explain. You can't just say "smoking is bad..." Give me details and data that shows me why. How is the current area format not healthy? Explain.
"I don't like the area format that we currently have" isn't a reason.

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