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Document for UIL Rule Change

Posted by 1A Advancement on 10/2/2025, 8:56 am

Here is a document on my findings of the 1A Advancement Rule. It is a critique of the rule itself and its inequitable nature. Some data and charts are included. I'd be interested in hearing (or seeing, in this case) what you think of the rule and its purpose. This has been submitted to UIL for a Rule Change.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_zwIxafDyRA1VQsZhQcNyxiSl_w-ghz7zS1vQAiwzDM/edit?usp=sharing

Re: Document for UIL Rule Change

Posted by me on 10/3/2025, 3:57 pm, in reply to "Document for UIL Rule Change"

I've got to admit that conversations like this make me want to see 1A back in the 2A contest. Problem solved. I suggest you figure this out amicably by calling each other across the state or be aware that you might just see UIL step in to fix this issue in a way you don't want to see happen.

Re: Document for UIL Rule Change

Posted by Lee Brossette on 10/2/2025, 2:14 pm, in reply to "Document for UIL Rule Change"

Well, I am the director of one of the three bands that achieved a superior rating and did not advance last year. I did tell my students that a 1-1-2 wasn't going to advance. That's what we and the other bands made 1-1-1 and we got to watch the 1A prelims and finals. How is it fair for us to have to compete for a slot at state when one of the qualifiers was the only 1A school in their region. They did make 1-1-1, but if they had come to our region contest, they may not have made it, even with a 1-1-1 and we would still have been at home.

Either everyone has to compete for a spot at state or it goes back to the earn a superior rating to advance.

Re: Document for UIL Rule Change

Posted by Me on 10/2/2025, 12:34 pm, in reply to "Document for UIL Rule Change"

There are plenty of bands in every classification every year who do not make the SMC that WOULD make the SMC if they were competing in a different area. So to day it's all based on merit and not geography is not totally the case. No matter the classification, someone is getting left out. Sucks, but that's how it works with an activity that advances on subjective means.

Re: Document for UIL Rule Change

Posted by Lee on 10/2/2025, 7:10 pm, in reply to "Re: Document for UIL Rule Change"

But the rule in question does not apply to every region, just 6, 7, and 16.

Re: Document for UIL Rule Change

Posted by Point of order on 10/3/2025, 3:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Document for UIL Rule Change"

The rule in question DOES apply to every region. It just only AFFECTS Regions 6, 7, and 16.

Region 20 for example usually has zero competing 1A schools in it. That doesn't mean that the rule doesn't apply to them. If a downtown Dallas charter school with an enrollment of 200 kids began competing in UIL events, they would have the application of the rule as well.

Re: Document for UIL Rule Change

Posted by OP on 10/2/2025, 3:46 pm, in reply to "Re: Document for UIL Rule Change"

You are correct! There are plenty of bands in other classifications. We are talking about 7 out of 54 (that have been cut), though. All in Regions 6, 7, and 16.

I'm not sure if this is a critique or just a callout for unideal wording.

If you'd like, I'd be happy to discuss this further. It's interesting getting others' perspectives!

Re: Document for UIL Rule Change

Posted by Lee Brossette on 10/2/2025, 2:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Document for UIL Rule Change"

My issue is and has always been that Regions 6, 7, and 16 are the only regions that this rule effects.

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