Played American Riversongs once - the Tuba player was AWEFUL - Contra Clarinet - I made the tuba unplayable at Contest and told him to hold it. STRAIGHT 1's - Quote - "GREAT TUBA SOLO!" - Just pretend - Find that ONE kid that can hold things well. (yes there are critics to this - and there are judges with eyes that see) Sometimes there really is addition with subtraction.