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Two Palms from Gerry’s Jungle circa 1999

Posted by Ken-Charlotte <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Ken-Charlotte' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/28/2019, 1:57 pm

Besides the T. Takil referenced in a separate post, I also acquired, via Mail Order, two other palms from Gerry’s Neotropic Jungle some 20 years ago:

This T. Fortunei is my best-looking Windmill. I have plenty of others from different providers - including Plant Delights Nursery - that are fine, but this one has the prettiest crown and stoutest trunk. This is a female, and those are volunteers at its base.

And here is my oldest Butia Capitata. It is now in its 3rd location on my property, and nearly croaked after its first relocation. I’ve never been able to provide it enough sunlight, because I have a lot of mature evergreen and deciduous trees here. So the trunk is still a juvenile after 20 years. It has seen 7 degrees F. twice here at the confluence of 8a/7b - and did not defoliate. It merely lost an emerging spear or two.

So, even though Gerry’s Jungle is no longer in the business (I don’t think) my palms sing its praises every day.

Re: Two Palms from Gerry’s Jungle circa 1999

Posted by WSimpson NC <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=WSimpson+NC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/30/2019, 11:03 am, in reply to "Two Palms from Gerry’s Jungle circa 1999"

Those are great looking palms Ken . That Trachy is so full . One of the best I've ever seen for fullness and it has some serious height too .
Will

Winston-Salem
Ten year lows: 20F 5F 4F 15F 7F 8F 14F 19F 16F 16F(2022)
10 Year Average Winter Lowest Low 12.4F ; 30 Year 12.3F
Profession:Trachy Defiberer and Palm Spear Puller (free estimates)

Stunted Palms

Posted by Jim Wilmington DE 7a <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Jim+Wilmington+DE+7a' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/30/2019, 11:41 am, in reply to "Two Palms from Gerry’s Jungle circa 1999"

I've seen this -- both first and second hand.

There are some palm species that, when presented with major stress events -- like relocation or near fatal cold exposure -- become permanent bonsai plants.

I have a 12 year old Palmetto that is nowhere NEAR forming a trunk, for example. It's defoliated so many times (never spear pull, though). So, it's basically become a costa-palmate minor, for lack of a better term. And I'm actually fine with that. To tell the truth, if it developed according to typical palmetto schedule, I wouldn't have room for it. So, if it stays small, great! I'm just tickled to be able to say I have a 12-year in-ground state tree of SC & FL in my Delaware soil.

I imagine this "stunting" effect can be seen in other species, like your Butia.

Jim, Wilmington, DE, 7a
Last 30 Years Avg. Winter Low: 7.50F
Last 20 Years Avg. Winter Low: 8.35F
Last 10 Years Avg. Winter Low: 8.40F
Favorite Palms: Species: Phoenix Canariensis / Genus: Sabal

Re: Two Palms from Gerry’s Jungle circa 1999

Posted by Tommy Nashville-Miami <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Tommy+Nashville-Miami' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 11/2/2019, 2:49 pm, in reply to "Two Palms from Gerry’s Jungle circa 1999"

I love the form on that fortunei!

"Oh, Dixie Land, I hope you understand
When I miss my Tennessee Home
And I've been away way too long
I can't see this world unless I go
Outside my Southern Comfort Zone"- Brad Paisley

Re: Two Palms from Gerry’s Jungle circa 1999

Posted by Ken-Charlotte <iframe src='https://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/info/user=Ken-Charlotte' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 11/2/2019, 4:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Two Palms from Gerry’s Jungle circa 1999"

Palm Pro Tamar Myers said about 20 years ago that, in her view, the Charlotte/Rock Hill Region is the best habitat for Windmill Palms in the world - even better than its Asia origin geography. And she concluded this because of our climate and soils.

I’ve heard others including Gary Hollar say that it’s really the broader Piedmont from Atlanta to Raleigh that is the optimal habitat region for Windmills.

Re: Stunted Palms

My 20-year-old Med Palms fall into that category. They are “half-hardy” here, and most Springs are in recovery mode from a Winter that damaged them. Right now, after 20 months of good growing conditions, they have never looked better but I know they are just one single-digit event from being set back.

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