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Re: Daily Telegraph article about former King Juan Carlos
Edited by CatherineNY on 24/9/2020, 0:04:18
All I know is what I learn on this message board, mostly from you.
But seriously, I have no specifics, just the instances you mention. I also had a sense that the King had generous friends in the world of business. Wasn't Inaki Urdangarin's highly-paid job in Washington arranged through one of the King's friend? Again, not a bribe, but the kind of favor that could be made with the expectation of future benefits, even if those benefits only take the form of being seen socializing with the Royal Family etc.
I should add that I am not here to attack the former King. I am disappointed at what I read, and I am shocked at his poor judgment.
Yes, it has been reported that other Gulf Monarchs have given him sums of money, but are they bribes? It has to be proven.
“Common” people giving him bribes? No , I have no news. If you have any...
I was referring to that $100 million, which is pretty massive, but perhaps I should have said bribe, singular, rather than bribes. I don't have any more specific instances, but aren't there accusations of other cases of people giving the former King large sums? I may be wrong.
Apparent taking of massive bribes? Well, it is something that it is not proven. The problem is 100 M dollars he received from the King of Arabia 4 years before the deal of the high speed train.
Massive bribes? Can you give us a detailed list of those brives and of those corrupting him?
That's what shocked me the most -- the risk-taking by someone who must have been raised to walk a very careful line, given what had happened to his predecessors. It's not just the multiple affairs -- it's the apparent taking of massive bribes that I find particularly stunning. How could he have thought he would not be caught? And did he care so little about his duty to his country?
He could also have lost his capacity to judge the risks he was taking properly thinking he could get away with more than the Spaniards are willing to overlook.
I also get the sad impression that he was trying to recapture something of a happy family life with Corinna and her son (bbq and Botswana trip). That his marriage with Sofia had become purely official was known i get the idea that the children may have been closer to their mother leaving Juan Carlos alone except for official events.
I don't agree with the statement that Sofia has more control over Felipe than Juan Carlos. It's clear Felipe loves and respects his mother and he may have learnt from her family history but i think his wife has more influence over him than his mother. To me it's more that Sofia, Felipe and others may have felt that Juan Carlos went too far and that the only possibility to safe the institution was for him to abdicate. To be honest his health was failing making a transition a good idea just because of that fact.
As we say in Spain, he was not thinking with his brain, but with another organ of his body.
The picture is stunning. What do you think happened to the King? Did he just give up at some point?
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