D.Miguel I and D.Manuel II, Emperors Wilhelm II and Karl, Isabel II and Alfonso XIII, Mihail, Simeon, Peter II, Constantine and the german kings Ludwig III, Wilhelm of Wurttemberg, Friederich August III of Saxony.
By remaining kings, those who married after abdicating/being dethroned could even transmit their royal style to their wives - D.Adelaide L-W-R and D.Augusta Victoria, Anne of BP and Margarita G-Acebo, even Alexandra of Greece.
Only recently did emerit monarchs choose to downgrade such as Juliana and Beatrix in the NL.
But other emerit kings kept their royal title such as Albert II or Juan Carlos.
In Edward VIII's case, did he really had the option to remain styled as king ?
Was Edward the one who choose the DoW title ?
Is it known how the family (namely Q.Mary) feel about that (E.VIII remaining styled as king) ?
: the Duke of Windsor was an oddity in English
: history. Other monarchs have abdicated or
: were forced to abdicate before him but all
: kept their title of King. Only the first two
: women proclaimed Lady or Queen of England
: were later denied that position. Their
: rival/successor simply started his/her
: official reign from the moment the previous
: monarch died.
: When Edward VIII abdicated he should have
: been styled HM king Edward VIII. By opting
: for HRH the Duke of Edward he was trying to
: pretend he was one of the younger sons of
: George V and hoping for his future wife to
: become HRH the Duchess of Windsor. His
: successor George V accepted Edward's choice
: of title and style for himself but never
: accepted Wallis as a Royal Highness. To him
: she was Her Grace the Duchess of Windsor.
: --Previous Message--
: The Duke of Bavaria title is a prestigious
: title thatcomes from way back before the
: Wittelsbachs took charge of the country.
: Before being styled as Electors, and later
: Kings, the Wittelsbachs were dukes of
: Bavaria and when monarchy was abolished,
: they resumed to the ducal title .
: Same happened f.i. with the Wurttembergs,
: while the descendants of the Kings of Saxony
: choose to carry the style of Markgrafs of
: Portugal was never a dukedom (actually it
: started as an Earldom - Condado
: Portucalense) and there was never a title of
: Duke of Portugal.
: In 1640, when the personal union between
: Portugal and Spain ended, the duke of
: Bragança was choosen as king D.João IV and
: the title incorporated in the Portuguese
: Royal Family and the kings of Portugal were
: also Dukes of Bragança.
: Such was an old and prestigious title that
: came D.Afonso, natural son of King D.João I
: in the 15th century.
: After D.Miguel I's death, his son D.Miguel
: II adopted the title so, from 1866 till the
: end of the monarchy there were 2 Dukes of
: Bragança, from the reigning line and from
: the deposed one.
: But there was never a title of Duke of
: Portugal so it would not make sense that the
: current pretenders would create it.
: Besides it looked better for them to
: establish a link with the old line of dukes
: who would later produced the kings of
: Portugal, perpetuating their connection to
: the RF, and making use of their titles.
: The Duke of Windsor title was created
: specifically for Edward VIII, who, of
: course, could not have become Duke of the
: United Kingdom where he had previously
: reigned, Windsor being the family surname
: like in the portuguese case.
: --Previous Message--
: If the head of the deposed house of
: Wittelsbach is styled The Duke of Bavaria,
: then why isn't the head of the deposed house
: of Braganza styled The Duke of Portugal?
: Alternatively, if the post-abdication title
: of Britain's King Edward VIII was The Duke
: of Windsor, and today's head of the
: Portuguese dynasty is styled the Duke of
: Braganza, then why isn't the head of the
: Bavarian dynasty styled The Duke of
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