: I was underlining the fact that no
: constitutuion states that "The state is
: unitary , but if some region, province or
: state chooses to part away, feel free to
: leave" .
: After the revolution there were some
: independentist movements both in Madeira
: (FLM) and Azores (FLAMA).
: But they soon realized that independence was
: unfeasible, as they had no economic chances
: to survive and so they choose to remain part
: of the whole country.
: For the same reason, that's why Galiza,
: Extremadura or Andaluzia comfortably prefer
: to stay in an united Spain, benefiting from
: the more advanced regions under the economic
: umbrella of Madrid and Catalonia.
: Catalonia, like it or not, has the capacity
: and ability to be a viable independent
No, it doesn't. It's indebted to Spain, and wholly dependent on becoming an immediate member of the EU, something Spain would veto. An independent Catalonia without EU membership would not survive economically. Witness the companies re-registering their home offices outside of Catalonia because they know that access to the EU is vital to their business and Catalonia would struggle to ever get Spain to not veto an effort to join.
: The problem is entirely political and,
: worse, that hypocritic aberration of
: thepolitical correct.
Appeal to facts, not emotion. There is nothing of political correctness in requiring adherence to a constitution.
: Any african or asian nation from Burkina
: Faso to Bangla Desh, that choosed to become
: independent, no matter how poor or deprived
: of institutions, educated staff, etc, will
: have the blessing of the major powers,
Really? Because there was a lot of gnashing of teeth about the independence of quite a few African and Asian nations, and Russia continues to withhold recognition of Kosovo.
: will turn a blind eye to the emergence of a
: corrupt, thieve, ill-prepared
: "elite" who will welcome foreign
: investment provided they will receive their
How utterly cynical of you.
: On a recent political debate, someone said
: that if it was of the interest of Germany,
: the Catalonia independence would be
: recognized tomorrow, as happened with
: Croatia, where Germany overruned the EU and
: all its partners who were not so hasty in
: recognizing the birth of a new country.
: But apparently Germany is not that
: interested which is a shame for the
: catalonian independists.
Or perhaps Germany knows that the egregious human rights abuses that marked the breakup of Yugoslavia are not taking place in Catalonia, regardless of what the separatists and their non-Spaniard supporters would claim.
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: I suppose you would not say the same if
: Madeira or Açores had proclaimed their
: independence. And art 155 of the Spanish
: constitution is "softer" compared
: to art 233 and 234 of the Portuguese
: constitution. The Spanish Govt. does not
: have right of veto, like in your art. 233.
: Seriously, do you know any constitution that
: allows a secession of a region, state or
: province ?
: Of course all constitutions maintain the
: unity of the country, which doesn't mean
: that a region, state or province may not
: aspire to its independence or in a lesse
: grade, more autonomy.
: But if the central state remains closed in
: its ivory tower surrounded by the
: constitution, dialogue may proove a bit
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