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Re: Cognatic grandchildren - 2 questions
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Thank you, Manuel
No, only children of the Monarch and of the heir are automatically HRH and Infante. No difference between children of an Infante and an Infanta.
Children of Infanta Cristina are HE and have the rank of Grandees because they are children of an Infanta, not because they are children of a Duchess.
1. The children of Infantas Elena and Cristina are not HRH, just His Excellences and Grandes of Spain.
But if JC (and Sofia ) had had a younger son, let's call him Juan, would his children (Alfonso and Maria), born from of an authorized wedding, automatically be HRH Infantes Don Alfonso and Doña Maria ?
2. The deprivation of the Palma title for C & I, also meant the deprivation of the HE, Grande of Spain styles for Infanta Cristina's children ?
He wasn't an ordinary Infante in Spain as he was a great-grandson of Carlos III.
He was bestowed the title of Infante of Portugal at his birth in 1811 but he only became Infante of Spain in 1824, title granted by his uncle Fernando VII.
I followed the Wikipedia article (ok, ok) that states that he was a "mere" HH in Portugal from 1811 to 1824, upgraded to HRH in 1824 when he became a spanish Infante, deprived from his HRH and Infante title in 1837, consequence of his carlist alignment, and reinstated in both style and title when the prodigal son returned in 1859.
In Spain, like other Infantes, he was HRH. Do you mean he was HH in Portugal?
Sebastian Gabriel de Borbon y Bragança, son of luso-spanish Infante Pedro Carlos of Borbon and Infanta D.Maria Teresa of Bragança, Princess of Beira, eldest daughter of King D.João VI, was granted the title of Infante of Spain AND Portugal with the style of HH.
Infante D.Pedro Carlos lived most of his short life in Portugal and accompanied the PRF to Brazil when the french napoleonic troops invaded the country, where he died.
Infante D.Sebastião was born in Brazil.
I know that the Fife sisters (Alexandra and Maud) were accorded the title Princess, with the qualification of Highness, by the 1905 Letters Patent of their maternal grandfather, King Edward VII of Great Britain, in the middle of his reign. Similarly later on, in the 1948 Letters Patent, King George VI declared that all children born to his elder daughter, the then-Princess Elizabeth, would be accorded the title of Prince(ss) with the qualification of Royal Highness -- even if born within his reign.
Otherwise, the Fife sisters would have continued to be styled with the appellation Lady, which is what the Princess Royal would have been, as a daughter of a duke. And the Prince of Wales would have been the Earl of Merioneth.
Are these the only instances in the royal history of England or Scotland, whereby cognatic grandchildren of a reigning monarch were given the princely title?
I know that this was known to happen all the time in Spain -- as long as a princess remained in her own country and married with approval.
The sovereign is the fount of all honors, and it is certainly his prerogative to grant royal titles -- as one saw in 1995, when King Albert II of the Belgians (the then-reigning monarch) declared his son-in-law a prince of Belgium.
What about Portugal? Have cognatic grandchildren of reigning monarchs been given royal titles there, too?