Re: The first, second, third, etc, Houses of Orange.
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Well all sorts of things needed to be arranged when Queen Wilhelmina married. At that time a woman lost the capacity to legally sign anything after getting married. So the Queen would not have been able to sign laws into existence or appoint mayors, ambassadors etc.
Before the marriage contract was signed by HM the Queen of the Netherlands and the Regent of Mecklenburg-Schwerin there had been contact with the family in Luxembourg. Emma, the Queen-mother did not need to remind the Luxembourg-Nassau's that it was only HER resistance against altering the line of succession in the Grand Duchy that had returned them to the list of ruling dynasties.
It was also agreed that Wilhelmina's offspring would be Van Oranje-Nassau. That is what both lines agreed to and you are in no position to question what was legally decided. I don't recall seeing you always refer to the last viceroy of India as HSH prince Louis of Battenberg or to members the UK dynasty as of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.
Let's keep it simple and look at their official surname and house-name. In all three cases that remained Orange-Nassau and as such they are not three separate houses. That is importing foreign rules into the Kingdom of the Netherlands and being Dutch myself i strongly oppose to pretending foreign rules are the norm when an independent nation has made its rules. Dutch law is very clear on what the name of the ruling Dynasty is: van Oranje-Nassau. Anyone denying that denies the country's right to make laws for itself and that i find highly disrespectful. personally i don't agree will a lot of laws in other countries but my opinion does not make them any less legal. And I like anyone else will have to abide by/be respectful of those laws whenever i visit those countries. It would mean a lot to me if those assuming male line descendant is more important than the female line (in short sexists) in future would respect Dutch law and the right of the Dutch legislative to decide upon the name of it's reigning dynasty!
Thinking about what made the original Orange-Nassaus just that in successive generations of males means they’ve also been Mecklenburgs, Lippes, and Amsbergs.
The very fact that the house name has had to be decreed or legislated and title said out for each generation is indicative that they are working against a very real fact: that dynastic membership is transmitted in the male line.
I am fine with the Dutch being Oranges (less so Nassaus, as they Luxembourgs are the true heirs of that house) but one cannot deny that they belong to other dynasties as well.
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