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Posted by edward on 2/18/2003, 8:28 pm, in reply to "Fong Lineage fiasco"
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: Mif and others,
: You are not going to get a serious answer out
: of Edward. See my posts in this forum a
: few months ago. I've looked into his wing
: chun experience and and Edward has had
: only a few seminars with Fong. If I have
: the information right he has had three
: one-week seminars in Arizona with Fong and
: four 2-3 day seminars there in Chicago. He
: spent most of his wing chun learning under
: a sifu named Antonio Kariotis outside of
: Chicago. Maybe about 7 years. Don't know
: why he doesn't like talking about his
: first sifu but there it is. I also found
: out something new since the last time I
: wrote. About a month ago I was
: corresponding with one of his classmates
: who attended with him a few years ago and
: come to find out that his First Windy City
: Seminar was done while he was at the
: Kariotis school and the seminar wasn't
: labelled Windy City seminar until about a
: few months after he left Sifu Kariotis
: sometime in 2000. Apparently, Edward took
: several students with him and since Sifu
: Kariotis had a small school anyway it hurt
: his business. He took his sifu's rice bowl
: away and then renamed the Fong seminar
: with his new school.
: Edward will rarely give you a straight
: answer. I had a friend who had a business
: meeting in Chicago and stop by and take a
: look at his "chi sao" sessions
: at his school. My friend said things were
: pretty bad. No contact is allowed. Chi sao
: is the only thing they do - nothing else.
: Edward many times loves showing off his
: skill with his students but when taking on
: a stranger with wing chun he doesn't do as
: well. They don't spar and Fong is
: practically a cult-like figure there. My
: friend got the distinct feeling that
: Edward thought his wing chun was the best
: and nobody outside of Fong and Master Ho
: really know about Wing Chun. In fact,
: according to him, nobdoby has the whole
: system but Fong and Master Ho and Edward
: believes that he is Fong's faithful
: student.
: Through others I found out he occassionally
: makes fun out of other martial arts. He's
: never fought with wing chun and he doesn't
: intend to prove himself. I don't think he
: takes challenge matches. He doesn't have
: the experience of using wing chun unders
: pressure. He mocks and belittles anyone
: that challenges him.
: Maybe somebody will take up the challenge?
: Your Friendly Provakateur
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