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Posted by John Dagmar For the Ip Ching student slinging mud, do a little research. For Ed at Windy City Wing Chun, this is a nice site, but if you claim Fong Sifu as 'your' Sifu, please detail how long you studied under him and where this took place. The odd seminar, for example, is fine - but you'd need to detail your real Sifu. The person who taught you the bulk of what you know.
on 2/18/2003, 3:35 am, in reply to "Re: even crappy Wing Chun is better than most everything else you will find"
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Someone needs to do a little research.
*It could be argued that Augustine Fong's lineage and learning is more comprehensive that Ip Ching's (who only spent a few years learning from his father).
*There is no copyright on the words Wing Chun. It is for this reason that Leung Ting uses the spelling WingTsun.
* Windy City Wing Chun is an appropriate name. My only problem is the personal lineage of Ed. Traditionally your first Sifu is the person you continue to refer to as Sifu. I've not read anywhere how long Ed studied under Fong Sifu in Tuscon. This should be detailed.
* There is nothing in the forms of Augustine Fong that is incorrect. He has simply added a few additional Wing Chun movements - as is his right.
* Ip Ching changed a striking motion in the third form, Biu Tse. While it is his right to do so, many Wing Chun instructors in Hong Kong who have more experience and spent more time with Yip Man, have said his 'reasons' for doing so are incorrect.
* Yip Man scrolls condoning the talk of future generations??? Ninja, please. This is ridiculous.