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Posted by Butch
on 3/20/2008, 4:16 pm, in reply to "Re: banning"
207.200.116.131
Stormy are you sure thats you? You are a nice guy when you calm dowm :> 
))))))))))) You just keep it up I know just what you are saying and am sure most of the racers on here know it also.-
-Previous Message--
: OK I,ve calmed down
: The thing that upsets me the most is since
: Ive been going to the drags I have seen
: Inyoken,Lions,Irwindal OCIR ,San
: Fernando,Fontana,Ontario,LACR,Carlsbad
: Terminal Island,Sata Maria close.Nothing is
: being built.This is the home of hot rodding
: and we have Barona & Bakersfield between
: the border and Sacramento.Tim you and the
: Morrocos need to talk their not giving up
: dispite being called con artist etc.
: The reason the FAA got involed after the
: 2000 "Nigth of fire" race was
: because the next race in April rained out
: and was to be rerun in a couple of weeks.
: The reasson they got involved is because of
: a "Helicopter " pilot who
: complains about everything,dust,racing,HIS
: MAIL not being deliverd on time.How do I
: know? I was there at the Banning airport
: tower with John Sedlock who runs the teminal
: on the weekend when Owen Carder wasn't
: there.He got the call from the same
: "pilot" who complains about
: anything. The 2000 Night of Fire race also
: made enough money for the Moroccos to pay
: all the bills and give the Chamber of
: Comerce over $25,000.does that sound like a
: con? did the Moroccos f-up....sure.They were
: so enthusasticabout any little thing that
: they got done they wanted to share it, hence
: the postings about the progress.I would have
: gone dark and not said anything as there
: were people who would doom the track because
: of their dislike for the Moroccos.I told
: them if they didnt treat the racers right
: they could be replaced.All this time they
: talked about putting on monthly
: "special shows" PAYING RACERS!
: like a group of NE1 cars , Fuel
: Altereds,Funny cars.While their bread and
: butter would be the bracket racers and
: street cars,they wanted to bring "the
: show" back to so cal. Can you remember
: jr. fuel-jr. gas races? AA/ Gas Supercharged
: meets? 64 funny cars, The Nitro
: Championships? Jet Car Nationals,Top fuel
: meets?No one is going to take the ball now
: and from what we hear is that Merceds
: "Riverside Motorsports Park " isnt
: going to happen.Thats not a jab I wanted it
: to happen.Just like in 94 when Bob Sands
: tried to get Half Moon Bay Reopened. I was
: gathering petitions down here for the track
: ,dont belive me call Brendan Murry.The fact
: is now we dont even have Banning to complain
: about and its awfully quiet out there as I
: think people relize now nothing is going to
: happen for us racers.Fontana ...I would love
: to run there again and support it,Mike
: Rice's Daughter I hear may run it.dave Dan
: Danish couldnt and Partridge couldnt,not for
: lack of trying these guys I belive gave it
: there best. If Tim-Mike-John can get
: somthing going out in the high desert I'll
: be there to support it through thick and
: thin.As racers we need to support the
: efforts of getting another track.Mopar must
: have taking the Moroocos seriously as they
: were going to give them seven figuers.I dont
: belive Larry Minor would have made offersto
: be part of it if he had belived it was a con
: job.The fact is these two guys with nothing
: but a dream got more done that anyone
: including John Saunders could belive.They
: delt with the FAA, City,Mayors,the press etc
: along the way .It was a learning curve they
: had to learn quickly as who else out there
: could they ask. They did have Ron Colsen
: come out from the mid west but if you dont
: know who Ron Colsen is I'm wasting my time
: as you cant build a house if you dont know
: what a hammer is. I hope if somthing happens
: put in the high desert you guys will support
: it.As for me I may sell my over priced house
: go north to where they still have drag
: strips and become a greeter at Wal Mart do I
: can race on the weekend. Bernie went to
: Alabama, that little state has 24 drag
: strips ...go figure
: We dont have to worry about Banning any
: longer It is not going to be built.So lets
: talk about the other 3 dragsrtips that we
: have and the 2 that are
: "unlimited" to run at .We'll be
: runnig at Bakersfield in April & May
: then Borona in June Maybe Fontana still not
: sure ,thats it no LACR, Terminal
: Island.Imagine 24 drag strips ,Bernie said
: theres one about every 59 = 75 miles...wow
: Stormy
:
: --Previous Message--
: First of all “Everyone” needs to stop and
: take
: a breath, the one thing we all want is a
: “New Drag Strip to Replace LACR”, I
: personally don’t care who makes it happen,
: if it’s me and Jeff (Moldy) or anyone else
: that’s fine but we need a place too help
: keep kids stay off the streets and a place
: for us devoted Drag Racers to race.
:
: As for Banning (aka Drag City), I wasn’t
: there and I can’t confirm or deny anything
: about the circumstances as to why it didn’t
: happen.
:
: FACT: I can tell you that I have heard the
: rumors about the Marocco’s and their
: business dealings concerning Banning just
: like everyone else, I can also tell you that
: rumors in the Drag Racing business run
: rampant. Case in point, for several years
: there was (and still is) a moron who calls
: himself “Agent 1302”, he would post on the
: “Drag City” message board how he “Personally
: Talked To Bernie Longjohn” and “Bernie told
: him that LACR was closing at the end of the
: year”, he would post this along with other
: misinformation about LACR on a regular
: basis, this was several years before the
: unfortunate close of LACR in 2007. As the
: Director of Marketing for LACR and the
: Webmaster, I would let Bernie know about
: this garbage when ever it was brought too my
: attention, Bernie’s response was who is this
: guy, my response was, you know it doesn’t
: matter, if the guy doesn’t have the balls to
: give his name, who cares, my point is,
: “Don’t take everything you read on the in
: internet as fact”!
:
: FACT: Original investors in the Banning Drag
: Strip have filed suit against the American
: Racing LLC (Andy Marocco) and his group but
: keep in mind that we are “All Innocent Until
: Proven Guilty” and these folks may just be
: angry that things didn’t go their way, we
: will have to see how it plays out in court.
:
: FCAT: I’ve known Bob “Stormy” Byrd for years
: (16 years at LACR) and if he said he was
: there through all the Drag City controversy
: than “Believe It”, Stormy has done more for
: Drag Racing through his support and he’s
: position as a journalist than most of the
: people I know, his honesty and
: professionalism are bar none and I consider
: him a friend. Was he and others duped by the
: Marocco’s, only time will tell, but I can
: tell you with complete certainty that his
: belief in what he says is real, and you can
: take that to the bank.
:
: FACT: We “All” need to get past all the
: “Could Have Been”, “Might Have Been” and
: “Who Did What” and focus on our strengths on
: getting a “New Drag Strip”, because there is
: strength in numbers and that’s what’s going
: to make it happen. I’ve been lacking on my
: end lately because like the rest of you I
: have to make a living and I don’t have to
: tell you that is getting harder than ever to
: do that. We are still working on getting a
: new track built, but unfortunately we can’t
: devote full time to it. But I want all of
: you to know that it is still uppermost in
: our lives and it will happen, and the reason
: it will happen is because of people like
: myself and Moldy and Stormy and the other
: racers on this board and the other boards
: around L. A. So let’s stay focused.
:
: As always I welcome your reply.
:
: Peace,
: Tim – LACR
:
: P. S. The NitroMater.com Message Board: What
: they have to say about Andy Marocco
:
: http://www.nitromater.com/nhra/12492-new-banning-strip-dead-water-2.html
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