Posted by Ariadne on 9/6/2008, 1:43:22, in reply to "Re: (Crown?) Prince Daniel..."
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A simple rule would be that only the possessor of the substantive title can have a spouse who uses that title as a courtesy title. An ex-spouse could use the dowager form of the title, but not transmit it to a new spouse. If the title was inheritable, only the children of the possessor of the substantive title could inherit it.
Again, it seems to work in Spain, where the Duchess of Lugo will eventually be able to remarry and her second husband can be called the Duke of Lugo. Jaime de Marichalar's new wife will not be able to call herself the Duchess of Lugo.
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: First of all we are not talking about
: nobility
: but about Royalty.
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: Royalty and nobility are closely connected
: and often use the same standards. So my
: question was relevant enough.
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: But yes i don't see why the husband of a
: countess could become a count just like the
: wife of a count becomes a countess.
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: You are welcome to have that opinion, but I
: am sure the nobility organizations disagree.
: I suppose you also like the idea that
: children of a born countess and a
: count-consort get comital titles. One
: "problem" is that the number of
: nobles will then increase dramatically.
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: Just like family-names the ex-spouse cannot
: give that name+title to a new spouse
:
: Names can certainly be transferred from
: ex-spouse to new spouse, at least in my
: country. If we follow your liberal ideas, I
: don't see why the same shouldn't apply to
: titles - and then we get the mess.
:
: and looses
: the right to use the name(+title) either at
: the divorce or at the latest when they
: remarry.
:
: Each country may have different rules, but
: in Denmark a woman keeps her (ex-husband's)
: name after divorce, unless she takes back
: her maiden name. As for the title, I could
: mention several examples of women who keep
: on using their countess-title long after
: divorcing the count. Some may even have
: remarried.
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