Posted by Tonto --Previous Message--
on March 4, 2002, 2:50 pm
TO be honest Andy I have never used a sweetner with fishmeal as you dont get sweet fish. If it works for you then why change it.
I dont use fishmeal based baits when the weather is cold and have not had any success during cold spells in spring/winter when I have. Regarding betaine the 5gms is roughly 2x 5ml spoonfuls unless you have some expensive scales then you would obviously weigh it
I use betaine hcl in all mixes at this ratio.
I find liquid molasses compliments csl and usually use both in equal quantities, 60ml of each per kilo is my ratio. Another good ingredient to add to these is brewers yeast powder it gives the bait superb added attraction I use it at 50gms or 2oz per 1kg. Personally I have never gone to the expense of GLM so I cant help you there. To help you understand the ratios for liquids of pre packed additives a 6 egg mix is usually a 1lb or 1/2 kg dry mix, as most bottles say 3-5ml per 6 eggs.
I have and do use a liquid or powdered creamy sweetner with any sickly sweet flavour (like scopex)with great success and a normal intense sweetner with fruit flavours. With fishmeals I use a shellfish palatant powder and liver amino, all are used to recommended levels. Expensive bio extracts have never given me any edge over baits without it so I stopped buying the expensive crap long ago. But I do swear by the liquid molasses and csl combination and like I mentioned previously it works all year round for me.
If you have never tried monster crab flavouring and you want to I recommend you use it cautiously and a distance of 10 mile from home and if you can wear a mask because once that smell is out of the bottle and in your nasal receptors it stays there for days lol and if it gets indoors you will be up for divorce if your married Basically it stinks to high heaven as does lobster NASTY FISHY SMELLS YEUCH. lmao
Hope all this helps
Tonto
: : --to tonto
: cheers for your reply it has given me some
: idea's for new mixes of groundbait can you
: give me advice of additive to dry crumb
: ratio.
: i.e. say 5 grams of betaine to 1 kilo of
: crumb
: and also flavours known to clash or
: compliment each other i.e. csl and glm
: etc. etc.
: do you use a palatant in groundbait like in
: boilie mixes like fish ,spice or sweet??
: at current i have had success with scopex oil
: and flavouring,would molasses and csl
: enhance this ??
: i do use molasses liquid and molasses meal in
: most of my groundbaits.do you think it is
: right to add this to fishmeal based
: groundbaits??
: My current mix that i use is 1kilo QB's
: method mix,1kilo brown crumb,1/2 kilo
: caplin fishmeal,1/2 kilo molasses meal,4oz
: whole bran,250grams 2-3mm pro biotic
: pellet and 150ml liquid molasses mixed in
: with the water to wet the mix up.This is
: used for my method feeder fishing.To which
: i have had some success with.
: is there anything you would add to this to
: compliment it i.e. a flavour or take
: something out that may be clashing with
: something in it.
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