Posted by anon on May 6, 2012, 3:19:01, in reply to "Re: alex"
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Hi
I have to say that I am very interested to find out what they both say. I have to agree with Travis here, and now you Alex, that she should keep doing 4 packs a day no matter what, even while pregnant and that she should smoke more unfiltered cigarettes. I look forward especially to hearing also what her husband has to say as I am very curious as to how the fathers feel about this and also how they are treating their kids with the cigarette smoke. Like do the dads also blow smoke in their kids faces, etc. when you are around. Thanks as always for sharing.
--Previous Message--
: Hi Travis,
:
: I was thinking about
: your post for a while
: and I have to say that
: you are right.
: I think, that it would
: be very hard for her to
: reduce her amount of
: cigarettes she needs per
: day. So, I am even
: afraid that trying this
: will lead to heavy
: stress for her and I
: think this would be even
: worse for the unborn
: compared to having to
: cope with more tar and
: nicotine in the mothers
: system. It may also be a
: good idea for her to
: smoke more nonfilters or
: rollies because it will
: calm her down as well.
: Today I will meet her
: again for a coffee and I
: will discuss this whole
: stuff with her and her
: husband. Would be also
: interesting to hear his
: opinion about it.
:
: I will keep you updated
: if you are interested ?
:
: Smoky regards
:
: Alex
:
: --Previous Message--
: I think she should keep
: doing 4 packs a day no
: matter what, even while
: pregnant.
: I think she should smoke
: more unfiltered.
: I think you should give
: her the advice to just
: do what feels good and
: not worry about it.
: --Previous Message--
: Hi,
:
: I think it is better if
: she would cut down to
: 2-3ppd as she planned. I
: think it is just
: important that she
: smokes during her
: pregnancy so that the
: baby is used to thos
: heavy clouds of second
: hand smoke it will be
: expecting after its
: birth.
: Besides I a hope and I
: am sure she will smoke
: during breastfeeding as
: she did with Antje as
: well as she told me. So,
: she is a very nice heavy
: smoking mother.
:
: Concnering non filters I
: love to see her smoking
: them from time to time
: because it shows her
: heavy addiction very
: nice and how she needs
: additional nicotine and
: tar.
: In general I like her
: smoking her Davidoff.
: They look very sexy and
: they also have a nice
: smell I think.
:
: Unfortunately, no of
: those 4 friends smoke
: pot....
:
: What is your opinion on
: that whole topic with
: her?
:
: Any advice I should give
: her?
:
: Thank you in advance and
: smokyy regards
:
: Alex
:
: --Previous Message--
: Thanks alex.
: What do you think? Do
: you think that she
: should cut down while
: pregnant, or.do you want
: to see her doing 4+
: packs a day while
: pregnant?
:
: Would you enjoy seeing
: her do nonfilters
: exclussively?
:
: Do any of these four
: friends smoke pot?
: --Previous Message--
: Hi Travis,
:
: I am not sure, she told
: me if she gets pregnant
: she would try to cut
: down to 2-3 packs plus
: some nonfilters if they
: are necessary for her. I
: am just not sure if she
: is able to cut
: down....She told me that
: she is afraid that 4ppd
: are really to much
: during her pregnancy so,
: that's why she wanna cut
: down.
: Problem is that she is
: one of the most addicted
: smokers I know.....so
: I'll see what will
: happen if she gets
: pregnant one day.
:
: Smoky regards
:
: Alex
:
: --Previous Message--
: Do you think will cut
: down
: if she gets pregnant, or
: continue smoking 4 packs
: plus some nonfilters per
: day?
: Do any of your 4 friends
: smoke marijuana?
:
:
:
: --Previous Message--
: Hi Anon,
:
: thank you so much for
: your nice comments! Good
: to know that someone is
: interested in this.
:
: Well, after we went in
: the house, I was
: wondering. Something
: changed in here. Last
: time, when I was here,
: for sure, you could
: smell smoke, but not as
: intense than now! Their
: house smelled really
: nice like Marlboro red
: cigarette smoke. I know
: that smell very well
: because my car pool
: woman also switched to
: them for a few days....
: I coulod recognize that
: now there are much more
: ashtray placed around,
: the windows were all
: closed. Little Christian
: was still on Susanne's
: arms, he held him tight
: as she dangled her
: cigarette. She did a
: nice nose exhale as she
: turned around to greet
: me, Christian coughed a
: bit because during this
: turn around, he was just
: bathed in Susanne's
: exhale.
: She gave my a kiss on my
: cheeks, Mark shook my
: hand and we all went in.
:
: Silke was very happy
: that they seem to change
: their mind about their
: smoking habit and she
: smiled and said
: something like
: "well done" to
: Susanne and Mark.
: Especially Susanne
: looked much more relaxed
: and happy than last
: time. After we sat down
: she told us that she is
: now constantly smoking
: 2ppd of Marlboro red
: 100s every day. She also
: smokes in Christians
: room,placed an ashtray
: there and just opens the
: windows in the house
: from time to time. She
: says that she now
: understands Silke and
: Bernd much better and
: that she really loves to
: live in that smoky
: surrounding. Well, for
: Christian it is
: currently a hard time
: because he is still not
: used to so much smoke,
: but Susanne told us that
: he will be soon. She had
: him on her nap so that
: he can look to us and
: after her next long
: cheek hollowing drag she
: told us that he was a
: really bad boy today.
: She talked during
: exhaling over his head
: so that he was again
: bathed in smoke. He did
: not look happy, coughed
: a bit but did not dare
: to do anything else. He
: just sat there in her
: cloud of smoke. Susanne
: told us that he did not
: want to eat, he did not
: want to take a short
: sleep as everyday and
: so, she was really not
: happy with him.
: Besides he was not quiet
: enough today he cried
: very often and was very
: aggressive against his
: parents. Silke told her
: that during the last
: weeks, If Antje behaves
: like that she straps her
: for a few hours in her
: baby stroller until she
: behaves. This is why
: antje is now seated in
: there for the whole
: evening.
: Susanne said that she
: will do exactly the
: same. She does this for
: a few days now and has
: also nice experiences
: with it.
: So, Little christian was
: strapped in his baby
: stroller as well. At the
: beginning, both kids
: where really blaming and
: tried to escape. Both
: mothers just tightened
: the straps so that they
: could not move much
: around. After a while an
: after a lot more
: cigarettes they were
: getting quiet and
: behaved.
: Susanne told us that she
: is really happy that she
: switched to the reds and
: that they give her much
: much more satisfaction
: than the lights. She
: could never go back on
: them.
: Silke smiled at her as
: she chained another
: Davidoff. Silke
: especially looked really
: sexy this evening. She
: had a tight blue jeans,
: a white blouse combined
: with a short black
: leather jacked and high
: heels. The rooms got
: more and more foggy and
: I also felt very
: relaxed, beeing bathed
: in all that heavy second
: hand smoke. I love that!
: The kids were playing
: with empty cigarette
: packs in their baby
: strollers and just
: seemed to accept their
: situation. From time to
: time they would cough
: but that't it.
: After having dinner,
: Silke grapped for her
: unfiltered cigarettes.
: Susanne and Mark where
: very astounded as Silke
: told them that she
: currently smokes a few
: per day if she has bad
: stress or if she just
: needs additional
: nicotine and tar in her
: lung and body. She
: lights up, took a slow
: but deep drag and
: exhaled on the kids who
: immediately started to
: cough in their
: strollers. Susanne
: started to giggle a bit
: and Silke asked her if
: she wanna try one. She
: was not sure because of
: her pregnancy but Silke
: could convince her. She
: lit up, took a short
: drag and coughed....but
: smiled after that. She
: said that they are much
: too strong for her but
: that she is very
: impressed, that Silke
: can smoke those.
: Silke told us that she
: and Bernd wanna have
: another baby and they
: hope that Silke will get
: pregnant soon. They
: think it is really nice
: for the kids if they
: have a sister or brother
: who is not much older or
: younger than they are.
: We all where very happy
: to hear that and talked
: a lot during this
: evening. At 11, the mood
: of the kids really got
: worse because they got
: very tired. So, we
: decided to drive back
: home. Little Antje felt
: asleep as soon as she
: was strapped from the
: stroller to her baby
: seat in the van and we
: drove off. Silke, as
: always, chained her
: Davidoff cigarettes. She
: smoked 10 during our way
: home. It is really
: impressive how much she
: can smoke in a row and
: how much double and even
: triple pumps she can
: even handle after such a
: long and heavy smoky
: evening.
:
: As we arrived at my
: place we said good night
: and said that I will
: visit them next week for
: a coffee.
:
: I will keep you updated.
:
: Smoky regards
:
: Alex
:
: --Previous Message--
: Hi
: Thank you so much Alex.
: No, it was great. Please
: continue and give as
: much detail as you can.
: Its all wonderful. I
: hope Christians dad was
: involved in the evening
: and that a lot more
: smoking happened. I'm so
: happy with the was mom
: reacted. Really perfect.
: I hope Christians
: parents will do the same
: to him.
:
: Look forward to hearing
: from you.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Hi,
:
: yeah, I think you will
: not be disappointed !
: Finally I had a nice
: dinner with them. On
: that evening, only Silke
: took me up because Bernd
: is on business trip over
: the weekend.
: When I entered the car I
: immediately felt like in
: heaven: Silke lighting
: up her next Davidoff
: cigarette, thick clouds
: of smoke in the whole
: car, empty and full
: cigarette packs in the
: front and the back of
: the car. I really love
: that! I took a deep
: breath of the smoky air
: and gave Silke a hug
: after she exhaled her
: first drag of her
: freshly lit cigarette on
: me. She asked me if I
: could empty the
: overflowing ashtray of
: the car because there is
: absolutely no space left
: for other cigarettes.
: For sure I did and so
: she had much more space
: for smoking her
: cigarettes !
: In the back, Antje was
: strapped in her baby
: seat, looking not happy,
: having red eyes and some
: tears in her face. I
: asked Silke what was up
: and she told with
: exhaling, after she took
: another very hard drag
: on her cigarette that
: Antje does not behave
: very nice the last days
: and especially today she
: is in a bad mood. She
: does not want to join
: for dinner because at
: home she was playing in
: her room. She also
: blames her parents for
: smoking which really
: really makes Silke very
: very angry. As a result
: she only smokes more and
: also lights up some non
: filtered cigarettes more
: often. At the end Silke
: had to gave her some
: spankings before they
: left, that's why she
: cried and has the red
: eyes. After Silke
: finished her cigarette
: with a final cheek
: holloing deep drag, she
: asked, exhaling on me
: again, if I could grap
: in her purse to open a
: pack of the non filtered
: pall malls for her. She
: told me, that she needs
: at least one of them
: now. Even they are not
: so tasty she needs the
: extra nicotine and tar
: NOW. So, I opened the
: pack and gave her a
: cigarette. She
: immediately lit and took
: a very slow and also
: long drag. It was
: incredible to see how
: addicted this nice
: looking lady is! I am
: sure she would rather
: die than to cut down her
: smoking! She exhaled on
: the windshield and just
: after another second I
: could smell the heavy
: smoke in my nose. It is
: really totally different
: to the Davidoff or other
: cigarettes. I thought I
: had to cough as she
: exhaled in my direction
: after her third drag,
: but I could manage no
: to. A few drags later,
: little Antje wasn't
: quiet again and started
: to cry. She told her
: mother so stop smoking
: immediately because she
: hates it. Silke got red
: in her face hearing
: that. She suddenly
: shouted to her to stop
: talking like that and
: that she will not be
: allowed to get out of
: her room for 3 weeks if
: she would ever blame
: again about her smoking.
: Silke took a final
: double pump on her non
: filtered pallmall,
: exhaled through her nose
: and lit another one. I
: also did not dare to say
: a word because I saw how
: angry she was. Antje
: started to cry again.
: Silke told me that she
: is sorry. I just told
: her that it is ok and
: that everything's fine
: for me. I can understand
: that she is angry and I
: told her she did the
: right thing. I told her
: that she should just try
: to relax, Antje will
: behave after a while.
: She smiled at me, agreed
: and just let Antje cry a
: bit until she shut up
: and felt asleep. After 3
: non filter cigarettes
: Silke chained in
: addition 2 Davidoff. She
: told me if she is the
: driver, she normally
: chainsmokes all the time
: because of the stress
: with Antje and
: especially because of
: the stress of driving. I
: said that I can totally
: understand that and that
: it is a good idea to
: calm down her nerves
: with chain smoking! She
: smiled as we stopped,
: took a final deep drag,
: exhaled on me, then we
: got out of the car.
:
: Susanne already opened
: the door of the house. I
: could see that she hat
: Christian on her arms,
: on the other hand she
: had a freshly lit
: cigarette. She exhaled
: in our direction,
: greeting us and I could
: see that after her next
: drag, little Christian
: had to breath in some
: second hand smoke
: because the wind blew
: the exhale of his mother
: directly in his tiny
: little face. He wanted
: to go down ot earth, but
: Susanne held him tight
: in her arms, not
: allowing him to escape.
: Silke unstrapped Antje
: form her seat and told
: her that she will punish
: her for her bad
: behaviour in the car.
: Antje looked a bit scary
: as she was strapped very
: tight in her baby
: stroller, not beeing
: allowed to walk. Silke
: lit another cigarette,
: exhaled in Antjes face
: telling her that she
: will have to sit there
: the whole evening until
: she learns how to
: behave. Antje tried to
: get out of the stroller
: but Silke only tightened
: the straps, smiled on
: her, exhaled on her
: again, then we went in
: the house.
:
: I hope I do not bore you
: with all those details.
: I have to go out now,
: but I will write down
: the rest of the evening
: later on if you want'!
:
: Smoky regards
:
: Alex
:
:
: --Previous Message--
: I can't wait to hear how
: it all went. I hope they
: all try the nonfilters.
: Really smoke the place
: up totally. Can't wait
: to find out how the kids
: health is doing and how
: they react to the
: nonfilters. And the
: pregnancy. Hope to hear
: from you soon. Take
: care.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Hi Anon,
:
: thanks for your nice
: comments! Yes, I also
: think that they are
: performning the right
: education with their
: kids. Especially in
: those anti-smoking
: times.
: I think it is important
: for their kids that they
: just know that they have
: to accept the heavy
: smoking of their parents
: anyway in any case and
: that they have to live
: with it. So, just
: smoking all the time
: around them is the right
: way I think. I can also
: understand and support
: their opinion that they
: wanna have kids who will
: never blame them for
: their smoking because
: so, they can enjoy much
: more and are less
: stressed by them.
:
: Yesterday, I just had a
: short phone call with
: Silke, they asked me if
: I wanna join them to
: Susanne's and Mark's
: place again for dinner
: this weekend. For sure,
: I agreed and I am
: looking forward to it.
: Besides, she told me
: that she tried some
: unfiltered Pall Mall red
: this week because she
: just wanted to try them.
: She told me that she did
: not like them at the
: beginning because they
: taste totally different
: to her beloved Davidoff.
: On the other hand she
: was just fascinated
: about the very heavy
: smoke she could feel in
: her lungs and about the
: extra nicotine rush. So,
: she tries to smoke them
: from time to time if
: Antje stresses her or if
: she has another extra
: stressful situation
: where she needs extra
: heavy smoke to calm
: down.
: I am also looking
: forward to discuss this
: much more in detail with
: her and to see how she
: smokes the unfiltered
: ones....I am sure she
: will smoke them this
: weekend at Susanne's and
: Marks place and in the
: car :-) At least, I hope
: that :-)
:
: Smoky regards
:
: Alex
:
: --Previous Message--
: Hi Alex
:
: This is all wonderful
: news. So glad to see all
: of them are smoking
: more. Even when the kids
: are sick or don't seem
: to like it at all. Good
: for them. I hope they
: all continue to increase
: their smoking and expose
: their kids to so much
: smoke. I really love how
: they are
: "educating"
: them. Good for them, it
: is wonderful. Please let
: us know how the
: pregnancy is going and
: how the parents smoking
: keeps going and the kids
: "education."
: And thank you so very
: much for sharing this
: great news with us here.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Hi!
:
: thank you for asking!
: For sure I am in regular
: contact with them.
: Sometimes we only meet
: on weekends but that's
: fine.
: Well, the last time when
: I was there, I was there
: for dinner again. Antje
: still had a very heavy
: cough and Silke told me
: that this time her cold
: at all take a very long
: time to get away fully.
: For sure even if Antje
: coughs a lot and has a
: cold Silke and Bernd
: still smoke heavily
: around her. Silke told
: me that she also exhales
: on her a lot but much
: less compared to the
: time when Antje is
: healthy. Silke said that
: when Antje has a cough,
: for sure it makes no
: sense to exhale on her
: to calm her down because
: she would only cough
: much more.
: Silke still smokes 4ppd
: for a few weeks. She
: told me that she needs
: that extra pack per day
: because of the heavy
: stress with coughing
: Antje all day long.
: Besides currently they
: almost never go outside
: the house with her
: because she could get an
: even heavier cold. So,
: Silke just tries to calm
: down Antje and smokes
: one cigarette after the
: other....
: Bernd is also fine, he
: now smokes around
: 2,5ppd, so also a bit
: more than normal due to
: the same reasons.
: It is really really nice
: to see how especially
: Silke is addicted to her
: cigarettes. Even
: chaining, she almost
: always drags very hard
: on her Davidoffs
: inhaling the smoke very
: deep and waiting for
: some seconds. After that
: she would do a big
: exhale or would talk
: during exhaling. You can
: really see how she also
: loves to smoke. Very
: nice and sexy to be
: honest :-)
: Concerning Susanne,
: Silke told me that she
: tried to Marlboro reds
: from Mark and felt
: immediately much more
: relaxed compared to her
: lights. During the first
: few days she combined
: 1ppd reds with 1ppd
: lights but now she only
: smokes red 100s around
: 1,5ppd, still
: increasing.
: Susanne and Mark would
: educate Christian now in
: a bit more stringent way
: and they would both
: exhale very often on
: him. On the one side to
: ensure he gets used to
: the smoke and will never
: blame them again. On the
: other hand they see that
: he behaves better and is
: more relaxed if he has
: to cope with much more
: smoke around him.
: So, everything's fine
: and smoking even
: increased in both
: families. It is really
: nice to see how they all
: love smoking !
:
: Smoky regards
:
: Alex
:
: --Previous Message--
: Hi
:
: Was hoping to hear more
: about Silke and Bernd
: and Susanne and Mark and
: their kids and Susannes
: pregnancy. Have you seen
: or had contact with them
: much. Hope there is a
: whole lot more smoking
: going on
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