Posted by Siddharth --Previous Message--
on March 4, 2007, 22:10:57, in reply to "Re: Strong opposition"
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I appreciate Mr R;
Yes the Prblem Lies with the Indian culture The ####ing indian Culture.This culture ,weather be it of Hindus or muslims or other religions,publisies nudity and sex(pre marital sex) as some thing bad .Bulshit we indians are no one in Producing Offsprings once married making our population growth impresive.
well coming back to the discussions I strongly supports the comments of Mr R .Iam from IIT and I have till now asked many students to strip out of which 9 of them have stripped completely in front of me and had no problems except one Kid,whats so bad if senior asks some fresher to strip? I have decent friendships with 7 of them but I admit that 2 avoid me. All though I forced stripping in some cases but in Six cases I convinced the fresher that Stripping will help him to overcome The Barriers in life.Well I also admit that I donot know exactly weather thas true or not but MAKING FRESHER STRIP AFTER CONVINCING HIM AND ASSURING HIM THAT THE SENIOR WONT PROPAGATE FACTS ABOUT THE INCIDENT DO MAKE JOUNIER FEEL RELAXED AND MORE COMFORTABLE as nothing worse can happen after that atleast in Kanpur we cannot physically cause hurt to kids( Iam reffering to slaps and blows) we are not like that whatever we do is just by talking and argument we do not touch the junior.We are not cannibals and I do admit that we really do make Bachhas more bold and extrovert.
well I have virtually ragged all batches
in 2004 two students stripped in front of me
in 2005 three students stripped
in 206 four students stripped (including one second yearite)
and except two all hed no problems at all.well its a risky business and I advice that do noot do it at any cost .And now reading such horrible stories I have decided to stop this stripping affair.and leave bachhas to be looked after by their immidiate seniors.
I just wan to mention that Stripping is not a gr8 issue and it is hyped by antiragging people as a sin.It really does changes kids into man and improves them .
well Last thing to add that I never stripped in front of any senior.
Iam reminded words of students from IIT Bombay" here in iit B ragging takes place in 2nd year and it goes upto stripping and nothing more after all we are not cannibals we do it for fun."
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: --Previous Message--
: Hi Mohit
: I am not against ragging which you have
: mentioned that is dancing, joking, singing,
: etc. But come out of your cocoon and try to
: see the world with open eyes... If you had a
: geniune will to understand all this, you
: would have browsed thru the 'ragging
: incidents' link on the site... to know that
: ragging can be as ugly as continuous torture
: for a month or two which includes hitting
: like an animal, stripping, sexual abuse,
: etc... This is what we are against.
: Kind regards
: Varun
:
: Hi Varun,
: I really feel u are heavily mistaken. I
: don't support beating a fresher black and
: blue for sure but being a fresher and having
: faced ragging a lot I am sure when I say
: that I enjoyed it to that max. I really
: don't find anything wrong in making a person
: strip. Didn't u bath naked in front of ur
: mother when u were small. u might say that I
: have grown up now. Well won't u strip before
: ur grlfriend or wife b4 having sex with her.
: so what's the shame in stripping in front of
: a guy.He won't take a photograph of u and
: put it on a adult site,will he?? I really
: feel all this fuss about ragging is due to
: one basic reason that is the rotten and sick
: attitude of out Indian Culture that sex and
: nakedness are bad. When u try and supress
: something it comes out like an explosion. So
: what if a fresher is asked to say a 'vulgar'
: statement. He should be free when saying it.
: and I really feel that ragging is the medium
: to do so.
: As concerning reports of homosexuality
: and physical torture it should be dealt as
: cases of molestation as happens in the
: professional world but not classify it in
: 'RAGGING'
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