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Posted by emily on 11/13/2007, 11:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Nietzsche contra Rand"
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this is a really late response and the original poster is probably long gone, but, im pretty sure nietzsche thinks that there is no longer any such thing as master and slave moralities. masters and slaves have intermingled far too much, both physically and culturally. modern europoean morality is, according to nietzsche, a hybrid between the two, and even nietzsche admits to having slave instincts in his ecce homo. to be sure, he claims to have overcome them, but with nietzsche, overcoming doesn't mean "nullifying" but "sublimating" (kaufman gives this interpretation in his bio on nietzsche). so, even nietzsche's "morality" or value-system, is a hybrid between master and slave. i think for nietzsche, given his will-to-power paradigm, the real dichotomy is between self-improving/aspiring forms of life and decadent ones. with that, it's not so much a question of what rand's conclusions are, but a question of where she's coming from. in other words, context plays a huge rule for nietzsche. see especially his remarks on the two kinds of skepticism (and even the two kinds of pity) in bge.
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: Nietzsche emphasized instincts more than Rand
: did, with less emphasis on pure rationality.
: He also was more of a "perciever"
: and she a "judger" in the
: Jungian/Myers-Briggs sense. I think she
: leaned toward master morality; in fact, in
: my opinion her philosophy owes an
: unacknowledged debt to Nietzsche in this
: area.
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: Hello All,
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: For some time I have been an avid reader of
: both Ayn Rand and Friedrich Nietzsche.
: However, my "avid" reading of
: Nietzsche has been limited to
: "Zarathustra" and "Beyond
: Good and Evil", and because of
: Nietzsche's less than literal style of
: philosophizing, my understanding of his work
: is not as deep as I should like it to be.
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: For those who are familiar with both of
: these thinkers, would anyone care to
: summarize their differences in point of
: view? I'm especially interested in whether
: Nietzsche would have (speaking in terms of
: probability) considered Rand a master or
: slave moralist?
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: Please, if you don't like Rand, don't tirade
: about how "she's not a real
: philosopher", or "she's
: juvenile". I came here because I have a
: great deal of respect for Nietzscheans in
: general, and should be dissapointed if I
: should find them engaged in the same
: criticisms of Ayn Rand as everyone else.
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: Thanks in advance to those who respond to
: this message.
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