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Posted by Bernard on 4/2/2007, 1:41 am, in reply to "Zarathustra Prologue 10"
123.3.10.X

And it could have been something he had seen - an Eagle, or an eagle carrying a serpent - in his long walks in the alps or elsewhere, before descending to his tiny boarding house room to pursue wisdom.
--Previous Message--
: The eagle and the serpent: the eagle is the
: symbol of St. John the Evangelist, so it
: could symbolize spirituality, the Apollinian
: realm. The serpent in Genesis is the symbol
: of Satan, hence folly, Dionysian excess. The
: friendship between these two forces could be
: Zarathustra's goal. But he describes the
: eagle as the symbol of pride, and the
: serpent of wisdom and cunning. It's very
: possible for symbols to have multiple
: meanings. Interesting that Zarathustra
: mentions that he's taken dangerous paths, an
: awareness of danger, of one's limits, he is
: not a blind adventurer.
: Thomas
: **************
: This had Zarathustra said to his heart when
: the sun stood at noon-tide. Then he looked
: inquiringly aloft,--for he heard above him
: the sharp call of a bird. And behold! An
: eagle swept through the air in wide circles,
: and on it hung a serpent, not like a prey,
: but like a friend: for it kept itself coiled
: round the eagle's neck.
: "They are mine animals," said
: Zarathustra, and rejoiced in his heart.
: "The proudest animal under the sun, and
: the wisest animal under the sun,-- they have
: come out to reconnoitre.
: They want to know whether Zarathustra still
: liveth. Verily, do I still live?
: More dangerous have I found it among men
: than among animals; in dangerous paths goeth
: Zarathustra. Let mine animals lead me!
: When Zarathustra had said this, he
: remembered the words of the saint in the
: forest. Then he sighed and spake thus to his
: heart: "Would that I were wiser! Would
: that I were wise from the very heart, like
: my serpent!
: But I am asking the impossible. Therefore do
: I ask my pride to go always with my wisdom!
: And if my wisdom should some day forsake
: me:--alas! it loveth to fly away!- -may my
: pride then fly with my folly!"
: Thus began Zarathustra's down-going.
:

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Zarathustra Prologue 10 - Thomas 4/1/2007, 5:26 pm
- Re: Zarathustra Prologue 10 - Bernard 4/2/2007, 1:41 am
  - Re: Zarathustra Prologue 10 - Thomas 4/2/2007, 4:09 pm
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--Previous Message-- : And it could have been something he had seen - : an Eagle, or an eagle carrying a serpent - : in his long walks in the alps or elsewhere, : before descending to his tiny boarding house : room to pursue wisdom. : : --Previous Message-- : The eagle and the serpent: the eagle is the : symbol of St. John the Evangelist, so it : could symbolize spirituality, the Apollinian : realm. The serpent in Genesis is the symbol : of Satan, hence folly, Dionysian excess. The : friendship between these two forces could be : Zarathustra's goal. But he describes the : eagle as the symbol of pride, and the : serpent of wisdom and cunning. It's very : possible for symbols to have multiple : meanings. Interesting that Zarathustra : mentions that he's taken dangerous paths, an : awareness of danger, of one's limits, he is : not a blind adventurer. : Thomas : ************** : This had Zarathustra said to his heart when : the sun stood at noon-tide. Then he looked : inquiringly aloft,--for he heard above him : the sharp call of a bird. And behold! An : eagle swept through the air in wide circles, : and on it hung a serpent, not like a prey, : but like a friend: for it kept itself coiled : round the eagle's neck. : "They are mine animals," said : Zarathustra, and rejoiced in his heart. : "The proudest animal under the sun, and : the wisest animal under the sun,-- they have : come out to reconnoitre. : They want to know whether Zarathustra still : liveth. Verily, do I still live? : More dangerous have I found it among men : than among animals; in dangerous paths goeth : Zarathustra. Let mine animals lead me! : When Zarathustra had said this, he : remembered the words of the saint in the : forest. Then he sighed and spake thus to his : heart: "Would that I were wiser! Would : that I were wise from the very heart, like : my serpent! : But I am asking the impossible. Therefore do : I ask my pride to go always with my wisdom! : And if my wisdom should some day forsake : me:--alas! it loveth to fly away!- -may my : pride then fly with my folly!" : Thus began Zarathustra's down-going. : : :

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