As to comments and answers, well for all those who now decry Trump why were the Clinton lot so arrogant and out of touch that they thought she would win, I always expected the result we got. What has also come out of that campaign is the amount of untruths that are posted publicly with no check on the veracity thereof. 15 times a bankrupt? look it up people! What you have Fred are the same lot as our remoaners, arrogant people who didn't foresee that the great ignorant masses could actually think and who now want another vote because the result wasn't what they wanted, they all go very quiet about "small" margins when quizzed on the words they would've used if it were reversed, I digress. My thought is to give the guy a chance but the effect on Nato does worry me, for years it's been a paper bag as regards defence of the realm, a hollowed out shell, and in my opinion a country with big enough conventional forces backed by and prepared to use tactical and normal nukes wouldn't have too much trouble driving through, that does keep me awake I have to admit, apart from that I'd be sitting people watching.....