The seed and recommendation has indeed come from Graham who also suspected more cold hardiness from E. elliptica. All 5 trees in zone 8a Trials survived two winters, with little to no dieback, at two days at 6f and 6-8 days in the high single digits. Also had trees, that were planted in the middle of a field, grow back from their base following a zone 7a winter that saw temps close to zero.
Thank you for the correct ID on the nitens photo. Will make that correction.
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